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When you cry, “racial discrimination”—“these systems don’t work on black people”, you have implicitly accepted that these systems would be fine if only they wor

When you cry, “racial discrimination”—“these systems don’t work on black people”, you have implicitly accepted that these systems would be fine if only they worked on black people as well as they work on white people. It’s the sucker half of the dialect. And you are a sucker.

mywittyname 6y ago
I pay with a credit card at every store and pharmacies have access to a ton of my personal health information. These aren't exactly places where you can remain anonymous. I wouldn't have an issue if these systems were near perfect, and had checks-and-balance built in such that false positives don't ruin innocent peoples' lives. That's my primary issue, is that these point the finger at innocent people, and that innocent person suffers. We have so much evidence of how terribly inaccurate these systems are that it's appalling that they are given any credibility in the legal justice system. That article alone says that their old system misidentified ten people out of ten (!!). My secondary issue is that these inaccurate systems are profoundly less accurate on PoC, a group of people already subjugated by our criminal justice system. Taken in isolation, each of these issues should be enough to prohibit their deployment and use. My suggestion for checks and balances is civil liabilities for those deploying said systems. Since I believe that Rite Aid is going to be pretty fucking diligent if they risk a $100MM lawsuit if they are wrong. I'm of the cynical mindset that the only way to get executives to consider the negative effects of their business strategies is to make it cost money, since that plays to their sociopathic tendency to make everything a dollar-cost optimization. You can sit there and call me a sucker and a racist for pointing out racial bias in our society. But that's no enough to stop me from standing up for equal rights by calling out racial bias anywhere I see it.
- qwepeyote 6y ago
  If you want to restore privacy to the people then what you need is a system that is incapable of identifying ten people out of ten, no matter their race. This is a simple concept. Yet here you are complaining about the thing that you pretend to be against.

mywittyname 6y ago

I pay with a credit card at every store and pharmacies have access to a ton of my personal health information. These aren't exactly places where you can remain anonymous. I wouldn't have an issue if these systems were near perfect, and had checks-and-balance built in such that false positives don't ruin innocent peoples' lives. That's my primary issue, is that these point the finger at innocent people, and that innocent person suffers. We have so much evidence of how terribly inaccurate these systems are that it's appalling that they are given any credibility in the legal justice system. That article alone says that their old system misidentified ten people out of ten (!!). My secondary issue is that these inaccurate systems are profoundly less accurate on PoC, a group of people already subjugated by our criminal justice system. Taken in isolation, each of these issues should be enough to prohibit their deployment and use. My suggestion for checks and balances is civil liabilities for those deploying said systems. Since I believe that Rite Aid is going to be pretty fucking diligent if they risk a $100MM lawsuit if they are wrong. I'm of the cynical mindset that the only way to get executives to consider the negative effects of their business strategies is to make it cost money, since that plays to their sociopathic tendency to make everything a dollar-cost optimization. You can sit there and call me a sucker and a racist for pointing out racial bias in our society. But that's no enough to stop me from standing up for equal rights by calling out racial bias anywhere I see it.

qwepeyote 6y ago
If you want to restore privacy to the people then what you need is a system that is incapable of identifying ten people out of ten, no matter their race. This is a simple concept. Yet here you are complaining about the thing that you pretend to be against.