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Move over Graphene? Here Comes Borophene

mlthoughts2018 6y ago
Ohh noo. Now all my “Graphene? More like Borophene.” jokes are obsolete.
- phkahler 6y ago
  They were getting a little thin anyway.
  - ineedasername 6y ago
    Sometimes the jokes just don't crystalize into something funny.
- cwkoss 6y ago
  I don't get it
  - donor20 6y ago
    My take - graphene had tons of hype but never really seemed to have commercial traction - so was boring - borophene.
  - waiseristy 6y ago
    https://youtu.be/zaxH4xeMGzM https://youtu.be/zaxH4xeMGzM
    - Shorel 6y ago
      Damn, please put a disclaimer before the link. Some of us can't stand Adam Sandler.
caiobegotti 6y ago
> Unfortunately, borophene looks to be more difficult to produce than graphene. That said, as an ignorant person regarding graphene, it seems graphene never "took off" as mass-produced material so I wonder what actual applications with graphene can be seen in the wild, regularly produced and commercialized or embedded into some market product? It's been 15 years anyways, I hope borophene is not just graphene 2.0 in that sense.
- DevoidSimo 6y ago
  It's used in Vittoria mountain bike tyres apparently. No idea how many they sell, so may not be mass produced as such.
- voxelghost 6y ago
  It's been used to induce spin in Tennis racquet marketing for more than 5 years now. /s https://www.tennis.com/gear/2015/02/racquet-review-head-graphene-xt-speed-pro/53947/ https://www.tennis.com/gear/2015/02/racquet-review-head-grap... https://www.tennis.com/gear/2020/07/racquet-preview-head-graphene-360-extreme-series/89724/ https://www.tennis.com/gear/2020/07/racquet-preview-head-gra...
  - kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
    Just like titanium (pigmented) golf balls.
  - richk449 6y ago
    How does putting graphite in the frame "induce spin" if the ball is contacting the strings? Also - those sites are hilarious: > Graphene has been placed at strategic parts of the head and throat to optimize energy transfer into the shot. This is combined with Spiralfibers at the bottom of the hoop that stretch and untwist at impact to create more flex and enhanced feel. They might as well say that each racket is aged for 72 days under a pyramid to concentrate the chi. > By having more weight toward the part of the frame a player makes contact, the racquet can deliver more power. And by counterbalancing that with weight in the handle, it’s still maneuverable and easy to swing. So it has more weight in the head. And more weight in the non-head. So, basically, it is heavy?
newyankee 6y ago
I really wanted to see Buildings that were 4x lighter, aeroplanes 5x lighter, solar cells > 50% efficient, Chips sped up by 5x beyond 7 nm, Solar desalination getting 10x cheaper but i have settled for the fact that Graphene is never going to be cheap enough to be mass produced unless by luck someone invents a process that works. It will be restricted to niche applications based on its cost of production at a given point of time assuming it does provide enough benefits at that price point.
swiley 6y ago
Aren’t most boron molecules very toxic?

mlthoughts2018 6y ago

Ohh noo. Now all my “Graphene? More like Borophene.” jokes are obsolete.

phkahler 6y ago
They were getting a little thin anyway.
- ineedasername 6y ago
  Sometimes the jokes just don't crystalize into something funny.
cwkoss 6y ago
I don't get it
- donor20 6y ago
  My take - graphene had tons of hype but never really seemed to have commercial traction - so was boring - borophene.
- waiseristy 6y ago
  https://youtu.be/zaxH4xeMGzM https://youtu.be/zaxH4xeMGzM
  - Shorel 6y ago
    Damn, please put a disclaimer before the link. Some of us can't stand Adam Sandler.

> Unfortunately, borophene looks to be more difficult to produce than graphene. That said, as an ignorant person regarding graphene, it seems graphene never "took off" as mass-produced material so I wonder what actual applications with graphene can be seen in the wild, regularly produced and commercialized or embedded into some market product? It's been 15 years anyways, I hope borophene is not just graphene 2.0 in that sense.

DevoidSimo 6y ago
It's used in Vittoria mountain bike tyres apparently. No idea how many they sell, so may not be mass produced as such.
voxelghost 6y ago
It's been used to induce spin in Tennis racquet marketing for more than 5 years now. /s https://www.tennis.com/gear/2015/02/racquet-review-head-graphene-xt-speed-pro/53947/ https://www.tennis.com/gear/2015/02/racquet-review-head-grap... https://www.tennis.com/gear/2020/07/racquet-preview-head-graphene-360-extreme-series/89724/ https://www.tennis.com/gear/2020/07/racquet-preview-head-gra...
- kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
  Just like titanium (pigmented) golf balls.
- richk449 6y ago
  How does putting graphite in the frame "induce spin" if the ball is contacting the strings? Also - those sites are hilarious: > Graphene has been placed at strategic parts of the head and throat to optimize energy transfer into the shot. This is combined with Spiralfibers at the bottom of the hoop that stretch and untwist at impact to create more flex and enhanced feel. They might as well say that each racket is aged for 72 days under a pyramid to concentrate the chi. > By having more weight toward the part of the frame a player makes contact, the racquet can deliver more power. And by counterbalancing that with weight in the handle, it’s still maneuverable and easy to swing. So it has more weight in the head. And more weight in the non-head. So, basically, it is heavy?

newyankee 6y ago

I really wanted to see Buildings that were 4x lighter, aeroplanes 5x lighter, solar cells > 50% efficient, Chips sped up by 5x beyond 7 nm, Solar desalination getting 10x cheaper but i have settled for the fact that Graphene is never going to be cheap enough to be mass produced unless by luck someone invents a process that works. It will be restricted to niche applications based on its cost of production at a given point of time assuming it does provide enough benefits at that price point.

swiley 6y ago

Aren’t most boron molecules very toxic?