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This isn't overzealous spy governments. They are investigating the one of the top three data heavy organisations on earth. They are requesting a miniscule subpe
by theelous3 6y ago
This isn't overzealous spy governments. They are investigating the one of the top three data heavy organisations on earth. They are requesting a miniscule subpercentage of that data, and doing so through an untrustworthy and opaque filter. You cannot investigate a company like facebook without large volumes of data.
It's just that relative to people's normal perceptions, it seems like a dragnet.
Facebooks feelings about this are unjustified and nothing but a tactic to waste regulatory body time, taxpayer money, and judicial stamina.
Crack them open like an egg, is what I say. I've no time for companies doing literal exabytes of questionable business and then playing the victim around handing over a few gigs of it for investigation.
- renewiltord 6y agoOh yeah, sure, there's always some big evil bad. At least back in the day they were claiming it's terrorists and child pornographers. Now it's Facebook. They told me this slope wasn't slippery but down we go.
- theelous3 6y agoYeah yeah. Pawn all of your reasoning off on a "they" and infer slippery slopes while breaking out the false equivalencies - as if people are equating anti-trust violations with child pornography. Do you think the anti-trust investigators should instead focus their efforts on Boko Haram? They are a suitable group for the job? Do you think facebook just... shouldn't be investigated? This has to be one of the weakest arguments I've yet to see on HN.
- renewiltord 6y agoI don't want the government to hoover up personal data in order to dragnet search for child porn or terrorism so obviously I think it's a massive overreach to do so for something as piddling as antitrust investigations.
- theelous3 6y agoObviously you are falling for facebooks ploy here and imagining the government wants any personal data at all. The regulator is requesting literally zero personal information, especially of the public. Facebook is smokescreening saying "oh but what if some of our employees' information is given over", to which the response is "well edit that out then, you idiots." Not only was this lost on you, but you still think it's a dragnet. I've never seen someone fall so hard for corporate propaganda, right before my eyes.
- renewiltord 6y agoWhere is that response? I think if the EU regulators said that and pay for the redaction (the same as we pay for FOIAs) then that's fine but otherwise looking for "big question" OR "not good for us" OR "shut down" is a dragnet. Happy to revise position if you have a source for that response.