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> Men should get paternity leave too Or neither should. > In most countries they do Nope > but European countries I am living in one. > y'all boys Not a

> Men should get paternity leave too Or neither should. > In most countries they do Nope > but European countries I am living in one. > y'all boys Not a boy > telling women creating you has no economic value I did not say that. > this entitled nonsense So I am entitled for saying that you are not entitled to money that you did not earn? What? > while you scoop up those six figure salaries More like barely 5 figure salaries. You do not know me, do not act like you do.

whotheffknows 6y ago
I don't care if you're a boy. Your views are sexist. If I knew how little you made I wouldn't even considered you a developer who has opinions on this. You live in Europe. If you don't work in the United States then this conversation isn't for you. However hard you think you have it at the expense of women getting paid while they give birth to humans isn't as hard as you think. That's why Europe pays you under six figures, because higher quality of life.
- dependenttypes 6y ago
  > I don't care if you're a boy You care enough to call me one. > Your views are sexist Because I think that the taxpayers nor the employers should be forced to pay neither men nor women maternity leave? > If I knew how little you made I wouldn't even considered you a developer who has opinions on this. Sorry for chosing to be born in a poor country I guess. (besides, it is not as if unpaid people who are developers of open source software do not exist) > If you don't work in the United States then this conversation isn't for you Do you not realize that you are the first person who mentioned the US in this thread? > However hard you think you have it at the expense of women getting paid while they give birth to humans isn't as hard as you think What? > because higher quality of life Yeah no. The quality of life is much better in the US or in the capitals of richer EU countries (but not in their smaller cities).
whotheffknows 6y ago
Also are you from eastern Europe or something? Denmark, Finland and average paid maternity leave across the EU is higher than the states. Sorry your facts are wrong, but we get it youre a special flower from that one European country who doesn't have paid maternity leave and you're not a boy which somehow means you can't be sexist even though it doesn't.
- dependenttypes 6y ago
  > Sorry your facts are wrong My facts are right. Most countries do not provide maternity leave to fathers, in fact I am not aware of any that do. > but we get it youre a special flower Have you considered not being an asshole? > which somehow means you can't be sexist even though it doesn't. I never said that.
  - brennebeck 6y ago
    Here you go: https://shieldgeo.com/maternity-and-paternity-leave-in-germany-a-guide-for-overseas-employers/ https://shieldgeo.com/maternity-and-paternity-leave-in-germa... > In addition to maternity leave, there is the option for the mother or father to take extended parental leave for up to a total of 24 months, with a parental allowance of 300 to 1200 Euros (depending on salary), paid by the government for the initial 14 months. My brother used this for his first child, so I’m quite certain it exists.
    - dependenttypes 6y ago
      Interesting, thanks. > depending on salary I never understood why they make it scale. Apparently Australia has parental leave too but at the minimum wage.

whotheffknows 6y ago

I don't care if you're a boy. Your views are sexist. If I knew how little you made I wouldn't even considered you a developer who has opinions on this. You live in Europe. If you don't work in the United States then this conversation isn't for you. However hard you think you have it at the expense of women getting paid while they give birth to humans isn't as hard as you think. That's why Europe pays you under six figures, because higher quality of life.

dependenttypes 6y ago
> I don't care if you're a boy You care enough to call me one. > Your views are sexist Because I think that the taxpayers nor the employers should be forced to pay neither men nor women maternity leave? > If I knew how little you made I wouldn't even considered you a developer who has opinions on this. Sorry for chosing to be born in a poor country I guess. (besides, it is not as if unpaid people who are developers of open source software do not exist) > If you don't work in the United States then this conversation isn't for you Do you not realize that you are the first person who mentioned the US in this thread? > However hard you think you have it at the expense of women getting paid while they give birth to humans isn't as hard as you think What? > because higher quality of life Yeah no. The quality of life is much better in the US or in the capitals of richer EU countries (but not in their smaller cities).

whotheffknows 6y ago

Also are you from eastern Europe or something? Denmark, Finland and average paid maternity leave across the EU is higher than the states. Sorry your facts are wrong, but we get it youre a special flower from that one European country who doesn't have paid maternity leave and you're not a boy which somehow means you can't be sexist even though it doesn't.

dependenttypes 6y ago
> Sorry your facts are wrong My facts are right. Most countries do not provide maternity leave to fathers, in fact I am not aware of any that do. > but we get it youre a special flower Have you considered not being an asshole? > which somehow means you can't be sexist even though it doesn't. I never said that.
- brennebeck 6y ago
  Here you go: https://shieldgeo.com/maternity-and-paternity-leave-in-germany-a-guide-for-overseas-employers/ https://shieldgeo.com/maternity-and-paternity-leave-in-germa... > In addition to maternity leave, there is the option for the mother or father to take extended parental leave for up to a total of 24 months, with a parental allowance of 300 to 1200 Euros (depending on salary), paid by the government for the initial 14 months. My brother used this for his first child, so I’m quite certain it exists.
  - dependenttypes 6y ago
    Interesting, thanks. > depending on salary I never understood why they make it scale. Apparently Australia has parental leave too but at the minimum wage.