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The slight sliver of hope in NYTimes is that today they wrote a story that is somewhat backtracking from full force support of the protestors: https://www.nytim

The slight sliver of hope in NYTimes is that today they wrote a story that is somewhat backtracking from full force support of the protestors: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/us/protests-divisions-blm.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/us/protests-divisions-blm... Quoting NYTimes: > hurled an open pocketknife at the officers guarding the courthouse; they have used power tools, crowbars and bolt cutters to yank down a fence Yep, this is going on definitely. And now we have some level of coverage. Edit: removed the link to that twitter account, I checked the messages he is posting, totally insane. "Unknown liquid" hurled at cops, it's just water. Then the guy is talking about how masks are harmful to lungs. I am sorry.

Shared404 6y ago
Thank you for the link. Reading it now. The pocketknife attack appears to be according to the Portland Police Bureau. As this is a non-neutral party, I'm not sure what to believe barring video evidence. I could lean either way on that incident, or violence in general. What it comes down to in my mind is which side is the aggressor. In this particular instance, the protesters appear to be the initial aggressors, attacking the building (Which I don't really care about) while people were still inside (Which I do care about). That being said, most of the violence that I have seen from these protests has been firmly instigated by police, so if you take that into consideration, the police could (should?) be considered to be the initial aggressors. In short, it's a mixed up situation with no good answers I can see. Thoughts? Edit: Also this -- > bricks were lobbed at firefighters who were attempting to extinguish the blaze. He said he suspected that white supremacists were behind the violence. Context for above quote: Protesters/"Protesters" set a dump truck on fire in Richmond VA. Any thoughts on something similar to this happening in Portland to discredit protests? Second edit: Going offline now. Will read/continue any further discussion tomorrow, if anyone wishes to.

Shared404 6y ago

Thank you for the link. Reading it now. The pocketknife attack appears to be according to the Portland Police Bureau. As this is a non-neutral party, I'm not sure what to believe barring video evidence. I could lean either way on that incident, or violence in general. What it comes down to in my mind is which side is the aggressor. In this particular instance, the protesters appear to be the initial aggressors, attacking the building (Which I don't really care about) while people were still inside (Which I do care about). That being said, most of the violence that I have seen from these protests has been firmly instigated by police, so if you take that into consideration, the police could (should?) be considered to be the initial aggressors. In short, it's a mixed up situation with no good answers I can see. Thoughts? Edit: Also this -- > bricks were lobbed at firefighters who were attempting to extinguish the blaze. He said he suspected that white supremacists were behind the violence. Context for above quote: Protesters/"Protesters" set a dump truck on fire in Richmond VA. Any thoughts on something similar to this happening in Portland to discredit protests? Second edit: Going offline now. Will read/continue any further discussion tomorrow, if anyone wishes to.