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Same thing for Gibson Guitars, bought by KKR in 2013 and BK in 2018. Gibson Guitars was founded in 1894, but a lot of the guitars they make today don't work, a

Same thing for Gibson Guitars, bought by KKR in 2013 and BK in 2018. Gibson Guitars was founded in 1894, but a lot of the guitars they make today don't work, and are way overpriced also. KKR renamed them to "Gibson Brands", so I guess some MBA with a PowerPoint thought related merchandise was more important than, you know, making guitars.

joe-collins 6y ago
They... don't work? How exactly does such a straightforward physical item not work?
- qserasera 6y ago
  Cheap materials consistently making shit music = not working
- rumanator 6y ago
  There are some differences between a Stradivarius and a 30$ violin sold by Amazon, even though the 30$ violin also makes noise.
- cowboysauce 6y ago
  I've seen extremely cheap guitars that will noticeably fall out of tune after playing them for only a few minutes.
- pantaloony 6y ago
  IDK about Gibson but back in the '00s I tried someone else's brand new First Act from Walmart (or wherever, but probably there) and it'd be fair to say it didn't work. [EDIT] that is, I could play a large number of tunes such that they were recognizable and even pleasant-sounding on an ordinary cheap (say, $300-400 used or dent & ding) guitar, but was unable to do so at all on the First Act, which probably needed at least couple hundred dollars of work and parts replacement by a luthier to render it even minimally playable, let alone good-sounding. The neck definitely needed some adjustment, the frets probably needed attention (filing down, perhaps) and the tuners just needed to be replaced with ones that worked. I'm am quite certain almost no otherwise-well-motivated kid could have learned to play on that instrument. It simply did not work.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  ikr: - bad woodworking (factory routing and finish issues) - factory fret sprout - 2018 SG had new plastic PCB with intermittents - bad soldering

joe-collins 6y ago

They... don't work? How exactly does such a straightforward physical item not work?

qserasera 6y ago
Cheap materials consistently making shit music = not working
rumanator 6y ago
There are some differences between a Stradivarius and a 30$ violin sold by Amazon, even though the 30$ violin also makes noise.
cowboysauce 6y ago
I've seen extremely cheap guitars that will noticeably fall out of tune after playing them for only a few minutes.
pantaloony 6y ago
IDK about Gibson but back in the '00s I tried someone else's brand new First Act from Walmart (or wherever, but probably there) and it'd be fair to say it didn't work. [EDIT] that is, I could play a large number of tunes such that they were recognizable and even pleasant-sounding on an ordinary cheap (say, $300-400 used or dent & ding) guitar, but was unable to do so at all on the First Act, which probably needed at least couple hundred dollars of work and parts replacement by a luthier to render it even minimally playable, let alone good-sounding. The neck definitely needed some adjustment, the frets probably needed attention (filing down, perhaps) and the tuners just needed to be replaced with ones that worked. I'm am quite certain almost no otherwise-well-motivated kid could have learned to play on that instrument. It simply did not work.
redis_mlc 6y ago
ikr: - bad woodworking (factory routing and finish issues) - factory fret sprout - 2018 SG had new plastic PCB with intermittents - bad soldering