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No they haven’t. Flying is the easy part. The hard parts are navigating and communicating. Even then, even the largest airports will only support precision appr
by thetinguy 6y ago
No they haven’t. Flying is the easy part. The hard parts are navigating and communicating. Even then, even the largest airports will only support precision approaches on some runways in some directions because maintaining ILS equipment is expensive. What happens when you push the button and there’s a massive crosswind across the ILS runway? Also communication standards have ossified such that the only way you can talk to ATC is through 50s era radios. That means any fully autonomous aircraft would have to be able to accept verbal commands and produce verbal acknowledgments. The technology is so bad that a simple stuck mic can shutdown an airport. https://youtu.be/Wcq6KipBOro https://youtu.be/Wcq6KipBOro
- m463 6y agoI was thinking more "broadcast we are under attack, or pilot unconscious" as the communication, and land (subject to external control?) They've had autoland for a while. Maybe in this context it means the nearest ILS runway, or nearest externally directed ILS runway. (just not landing in the side of a skyscraper)
- thetinguy 6y agoYes and auto land capability is not always available. Even today object avoidance is a hard issue. What happens when the aircraft flies into a flock of birds or some other obstacle, like another aircraft on the way to the runway. What happens when two planes both push the button at the same time and decide to both use the same runway? Autopilot even in aviation is a misnomer.
- toohotatopic 6y agoWhat happens if they fly into a building because they don't have the button? It's a management of risks. Besides, there can be a back-link and information updates for the landing box to manage situations with two or more planes in emergency mode.
- thetinguy 6y agoHaving a unpredictable button which may significantly increase risk to an aircraft and others is not risk management no matter how dire or remote it’s predicted usage would be. First thing any knowledgeable malicious actor would do is pull the breakers associated with the system or simply disable it. This button would have a way to disable it assuming accidental or malicious activation right?
- toohotatopic 6y agoYou will have a hard time creating a situation where pushing the button for an emergency landing creates a disaster.
- foldr 6y agoIt's very easy to imagine: the plane lands on top of another plane at a busy airport.
- toohotatopic 6y agoThat happens if everything goes wrong but you cannot create that situation intentionally. Usually, pushing the emergency button would send an emergency signal, and air traffic control would clear the airport. Landing on top of another plane is an emergency within the emergency - very, very unlikely.
- foldr 6y agoYou can't just "clear" a big airport. There's also no way to guarantee that the emergency signal would be received.
- toohotatopic 6y agoYou also can't guarantee that you won't be hit by a meteorite and yet you leave your house. If you worry about the signal not being received and the inability of air traffic control to spot the irregularity, then only initiate safety landing when the plane receives an answer-signal. Otherwise, let the plane fly however it wants and let it crash somewhere randomly because most places are better equipped to handle a random plane landing than a regular airport.
- cmurf 6y agoAutoland isn't possible on just any ILS. Autoland doesn't exit the runway either.
- chinathrow 6y agoCorrect, but at least there is "brake to vacate" the runway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_to_Vacate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_to_Vacate
- jlg23 6y agoWhen a pilot declares an emergency s/he can rely on the airport and airspace around it being cleared by flight control. If a hypothetical red button was pushed, there would be a standard procedure the aircraft computers execute which in turn can be relied on by flight control.