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marketing is not propaganda.

DyslexicAtheist 6y ago
how then would propaganda be defined? It is the attempt to sway a targets opinion in your favor. Propaganda is "the formation of peoples attitudes"[1] as is marketing. [1] Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_Men%27s_Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_M...
meroes 6y ago
It literally is though
willis936 6y ago
Uncle Sam Wants You! To explain how that is remotely true.
Raidion 6y ago
The line is very blurry. Political marketing could easily be called propaganda. First google definition is "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view." It's very easy to see how in a period of naval troubles (various collisions in the pacific, Bon Homme Richard, China in the South Sea), this could be considered advancing the US political position of the navy. I really like Destin and think this isn't propaganda, but it is a recruiting tool for the Navy. If you're not constantly looking out for possible sources of bias in your information, there are a lot of people/organizations out there that will gladly lead you to conclusions that aren't 100% accurate.
dragonwriter 6y ago
“Propaganda" comes from the former name of the Roman Catholic central body tasked with marketing the faith, currently known as the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples, but from 1622-1967 it was the Sacred Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith, or, in Latin Sacra Congregatio de Propaganda Fide. Marketing is exactly propaganda, the deliberate propagation of particular beliefs to motivate desired action. And government promotion of it's military is pretty much at the core of the common understanding of propaganda, not some obscure connection.
saaaaaam 6y ago
Marketing for the military capacity of a state is pretty much the definition of propaganda :)
coldtea 6y ago
State marketing is the literal definition of propaganda...
- dredmorbius 6y ago
  Actually church marketing, originally. (The pejorative state sense came out of German First World War influence campaigns.) https://www.etymonline.com/word/propaganda https://www.etymonline.com/word/propaganda The state/marketing usage is predominant today though: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/propaganda https://www.thefreedictionary.com/propaganda
dredmorbius 6y ago
Edward Bernays, father of modern advertising and public relations, Propaganda (1928): https://archive.org/details/bernays-edward-l.-propaganda-1928-1936_202005/page/3/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/bernays-edward-l.-propaganda-192...

how then would propaganda be defined? It is the attempt to sway a targets opinion in your favor. Propaganda is "the formation of peoples attitudes"[1] as is marketing. [1] Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_Men%27s_Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_M...

meroes 6y ago

It literally is though

willis936 6y ago

Uncle Sam Wants You! To explain how that is remotely true.

Raidion 6y ago

The line is very blurry. Political marketing could easily be called propaganda. First google definition is "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view." It's very easy to see how in a period of naval troubles (various collisions in the pacific, Bon Homme Richard, China in the South Sea), this could be considered advancing the US political position of the navy. I really like Destin and think this isn't propaganda, but it is a recruiting tool for the Navy. If you're not constantly looking out for possible sources of bias in your information, there are a lot of people/organizations out there that will gladly lead you to conclusions that aren't 100% accurate.

dragonwriter 6y ago

“Propaganda" comes from the former name of the Roman Catholic central body tasked with marketing the faith, currently known as the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples, but from 1622-1967 it was the Sacred Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith, or, in Latin Sacra Congregatio de Propaganda Fide. Marketing is exactly propaganda, the deliberate propagation of particular beliefs to motivate desired action. And government promotion of it's military is pretty much at the core of the common understanding of propaganda, not some obscure connection.

saaaaaam 6y ago

Marketing for the military capacity of a state is pretty much the definition of propaganda :)

coldtea 6y ago

State marketing is the literal definition of propaganda...

dredmorbius 6y ago
Actually church marketing, originally. (The pejorative state sense came out of German First World War influence campaigns.) https://www.etymonline.com/word/propaganda https://www.etymonline.com/word/propaganda The state/marketing usage is predominant today though: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/propaganda https://www.thefreedictionary.com/propaganda

dredmorbius 6y ago

Edward Bernays, father of modern advertising and public relations, Propaganda (1928): https://archive.org/details/bernays-edward-l.-propaganda-1928-1936_202005/page/3/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/bernays-edward-l.-propaganda-192...