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>It's obviously propaganda but it is very interesting nonetheless. Sorry, how is this video obviously propaganda?

by hylian 6y ago

hajile 6y ago
It's not. The guy lives and works in Huntsville. The primary revenue of the city is weapon and propulsion research for the government. I'd imagine that perspective is the norm in that area (even more than the South in general).
- ezconnect 6y ago
  He works for the military. He’s more open about it recently. I used to watched his videos but now its just advertisement for the military. He seems very happy designing efficient killing machines. He mentioned works on rocket propelled munitions research.
  - Balgair 6y ago
    I thought he went back to grad school?
    - ezconnect 6y ago
      I unsubscribed when he mentioned his actual job, that was a long time ago.
coopsmgoops 6y ago
The US military isn't just doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They want you to become a submariner! Or at least that's what I think he's implying.
- mensetmanusman 6y ago
  Super fun job!
s9w 6y ago
I think the smarter every day guy is or was military. I remember a video he did with his boss (some kind of general or so). That just as a fact, not judging on the propaganda part.
- icegreentea2 6y ago
  Destin worked as a civilian for the DoD. I believe it would be accurate to state that Destin has a healthy respect for the people of, technology within, and the very idea of the US Military.
vaidhy 6y ago
Destin, the person behind Smarter Every Day was ex-military and he interviewed his old commanding officer. It was clearly mentioned that the military is doing this to reach out to potential recruits while sharing interesting knowledge. I believe the actual episode is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOTYgcdNrXE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOTYgcdNrXE
- godelski 6y ago
  It is important to note that things can be more than one thing at once. The general in the video says that Destin created a weapon (of information), which would be propaganda. But the video is also highly informative and educational. Destin is in it for the education and cool factor. The military is in it for the education, cool factor (potential recruits), and show of power (to potential recruits, civilians, and foreign civilians). From my understanding, Destin has pretty free reign in what he can show (military does have to approve but he is free to speak his mind). The fact that this is also propaganda just means that the military has a motive to show this other than for purely educational purposes. That's all propaganda means here. (Note: I'm not arguing with the parent, I'm expanding on because of sibling comments that do not seem to understand the nuance)
  - pizza 6y ago
    It's fairly un-nuanced: get special exclusive access to military resources, and call the military resources cool in a way that the military approves of. That's propaganda. Whether you think that's bad or good or there is nuance is still for each person to decide for themselves but nevertheless that's pretty much textbook propaganda.
- aaronmdjones 6y ago
  Nitpick; ex-military has a negative connotation to some; as in, implying they got there by way of dishonourable discharge, etc. In my experience, most such people prefer the term former military.
charwalker 6y ago
Potentially sponsored/edited by military personnel or at least done with their OK.
polytely 6y ago
Ok so destin works as a scientist for the us gov. He did a video a while ago where he interviewed a general about the cyber domain of warfare. In this interview they discussed that the interview itself was part of that cyber domain, and the access they provide to destin is a part of the US presence in the cyber domain. [0] The pentagon clearly sees smarter everyday as a channel to spread information to a certain audience, to show off US capability and serve as a recruitment material. I respect Destin a lot and I think the video is very cool, but I feel that I should add a sort of disclaimer because I'm actively aiding the US gov by spreading this video? they obviously don't care about you knowing it's propaganda, but it cant hurt to emphasize it. Tbh my thinking about this isn't that crystallized yet but I thought it might spark an interesting side discussion. 0: https://youtu.be/qOTYgcdNrXE https://youtu.be/qOTYgcdNrXE see 21:00+ for cyberdomain talk
- barnesto 6y ago
  marketing is not propaganda.
  - DyslexicAtheist 6y ago
    how then would propaganda be defined? It is the attempt to sway a targets opinion in your favor. Propaganda is "the formation of peoples attitudes"[1] as is marketing. [1] Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_Men%27s_Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_M...
  - meroes 6y ago
    It literally is though
  - willis936 6y ago
    Uncle Sam Wants You! To explain how that is remotely true.
  - Raidion 6y ago
    The line is very blurry. Political marketing could easily be called propaganda. First google definition is "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view." It's very easy to see how in a period of naval troubles (various collisions in the pacific, Bon Homme Richard, China in the South Sea), this could be considered advancing the US political position of the navy. I really like Destin and think this isn't propaganda, but it is a recruiting tool for the Navy. If you're not constantly looking out for possible sources of bias in your information, there are a lot of people/organizations out there that will gladly lead you to conclusions that aren't 100% accurate.
brixon 6y ago
I am assuming the idea that approval/invitation of a video from the subject is by definition propaganda of the subject. Just like sponsored product reviews or manufacturing tours. If you understand that he will not say much of anything negative then it is fine.

>It's obviously propaganda but it is very interesting nonetheless. Sorry, how is this video obviously propaganda?

by hylian 6y ago

>It's obviously propaganda but it is very interesting nonetheless. Sorry, how is this video obviously propaganda?

It's not. The guy lives and works in Huntsville. The primary revenue of the city is weapon and propulsion research for the government. I'd imagine that perspective is the norm in that area (even more than the South in general).

ezconnect 6y ago
He works for the military. He’s more open about it recently. I used to watched his videos but now its just advertisement for the military. He seems very happy designing efficient killing machines. He mentioned works on rocket propelled munitions research.
- Balgair 6y ago
  I thought he went back to grad school?
  - ezconnect 6y ago
    I unsubscribed when he mentioned his actual job, that was a long time ago.

coopsmgoops 6y ago

The US military isn't just doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They want you to become a submariner! Or at least that's what I think he's implying.

mensetmanusman 6y ago
Super fun job!

s9w 6y ago

I think the smarter every day guy is or was military. I remember a video he did with his boss (some kind of general or so). That just as a fact, not judging on the propaganda part.

icegreentea2 6y ago
Destin worked as a civilian for the DoD. I believe it would be accurate to state that Destin has a healthy respect for the people of, technology within, and the very idea of the US Military.

vaidhy 6y ago

Destin, the person behind Smarter Every Day was ex-military and he interviewed his old commanding officer. It was clearly mentioned that the military is doing this to reach out to potential recruits while sharing interesting knowledge. I believe the actual episode is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOTYgcdNrXE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOTYgcdNrXE

godelski 6y ago
It is important to note that things can be more than one thing at once. The general in the video says that Destin created a weapon (of information), which would be propaganda. But the video is also highly informative and educational. Destin is in it for the education and cool factor. The military is in it for the education, cool factor (potential recruits), and show of power (to potential recruits, civilians, and foreign civilians). From my understanding, Destin has pretty free reign in what he can show (military does have to approve but he is free to speak his mind). The fact that this is also propaganda just means that the military has a motive to show this other than for purely educational purposes. That's all propaganda means here. (Note: I'm not arguing with the parent, I'm expanding on because of sibling comments that do not seem to understand the nuance)
- pizza 6y ago
  It's fairly un-nuanced: get special exclusive access to military resources, and call the military resources cool in a way that the military approves of. That's propaganda. Whether you think that's bad or good or there is nuance is still for each person to decide for themselves but nevertheless that's pretty much textbook propaganda.
aaronmdjones 6y ago
Nitpick; ex-military has a negative connotation to some; as in, implying they got there by way of dishonourable discharge, etc. In my experience, most such people prefer the term former military.

charwalker 6y ago

Potentially sponsored/edited by military personnel or at least done with their OK.

polytely 6y ago

Ok so destin works as a scientist for the us gov. He did a video a while ago where he interviewed a general about the cyber domain of warfare. In this interview they discussed that the interview itself was part of that cyber domain, and the access they provide to destin is a part of the US presence in the cyber domain. [0] The pentagon clearly sees smarter everyday as a channel to spread information to a certain audience, to show off US capability and serve as a recruitment material. I respect Destin a lot and I think the video is very cool, but I feel that I should add a sort of disclaimer because I'm actively aiding the US gov by spreading this video? they obviously don't care about you knowing it's propaganda, but it cant hurt to emphasize it. Tbh my thinking about this isn't that crystallized yet but I thought it might spark an interesting side discussion. 0: https://youtu.be/qOTYgcdNrXE https://youtu.be/qOTYgcdNrXE see 21:00+ for cyberdomain talk

barnesto 6y ago
marketing is not propaganda.
- DyslexicAtheist 6y ago
  how then would propaganda be defined? It is the attempt to sway a targets opinion in your favor. Propaganda is "the formation of peoples attitudes"[1] as is marketing. [1] Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_Men%27s_Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_M...
- meroes 6y ago
  It literally is though
- willis936 6y ago
  Uncle Sam Wants You! To explain how that is remotely true.
- Raidion 6y ago
  The line is very blurry. Political marketing could easily be called propaganda. First google definition is "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view." It's very easy to see how in a period of naval troubles (various collisions in the pacific, Bon Homme Richard, China in the South Sea), this could be considered advancing the US political position of the navy. I really like Destin and think this isn't propaganda, but it is a recruiting tool for the Navy. If you're not constantly looking out for possible sources of bias in your information, there are a lot of people/organizations out there that will gladly lead you to conclusions that aren't 100% accurate.

brixon 6y ago

I am assuming the idea that approval/invitation of a video from the subject is by definition propaganda of the subject. Just like sponsored product reviews or manufacturing tours. If you understand that he will not say much of anything negative then it is fine.