> I've never worked anywhere that didn't allow on-the-job time for learning I think the issue is more just that there aren't any clear ethical standards that h

> I've never worked anywhere that didn't allow on-the-job time for learning I think the issue is more just that there aren't any clear ethical standards that have been set industrywide, and since developers tend to have limited oversight, at this point it's really just a matter of what standards you set for yourself. IMHO for things you're learning that will materially benefit your career, a reasonable standard would be that for every hour you spend on your own time teaching yourself that thing, you can spend an hour of paid time. Whereas for things that only benefit your employer, e.g. niche libraries or outdated frameworks, that should happen entirely on the employers dime.