> I've rarely seen #1 and #2 mix. They're very different crowds, and in very different types of companies. This has been my experience, too. Generally, the cl

> I've rarely seen #1 and #2 mix. They're very different crowds, and in very different types of companies. This has been my experience, too. Generally, the closer to doing technology as the main offering -- e.g. network engineers at an ISP, or developers at a code shop -- the better and more technical they are. Once you get into the Enterprise, where they're handling specific apps and frameworks, they tend to get stuck in patterns and whither. That's not to say you can't be an old grognard doing COBOL at a niche code shop, but when the tech itself is the offering you find much more technically competent seniors.