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Having a second Alt key on the right side (instead of AltGr) is one of my favourite features of the US layout in contrast to UK. I just don't get why some keybo

Having a second Alt key on the right side (instead of AltGr) is one of my favourite features of the US layout in contrast to UK. I just don't get why some keyboards implement an Fn key instead of another Super key on the right side either. It's just bad keyboard design IMO. A good keyboard should provide Shift, Alt, Super and Ctrl on both sides of the keyboard. It may then add Fn and Menu keys in addition, the spacebar would still be big enough.

runarberg 6y ago
Many international keyboard layouts (including German, Danish, and Icelandic) use AltGr to reach the third level shift. We need this key to type e.g. at (@), brackets ([, ], {, }), backslash (\), and tilde (~). The ANSI (US) standard keyboard is also missing a key that is most often used to type the less then, greater then, and pipe (<, >, |) in most layouts (right of the smaller left shift key). To make things worse Macs overload Alt and AltGr into a single Option key. This makes Mac keyboard really hard to use for programming (and makes many people accidentally close the window when trying to type @). Most international programmers that I know have simply given up on their native keyboard layouts because of these problems.
stronglikedan 6y ago
Unfortunately, US keyboards are quickly getting rid of the right hand super key, as well as the context menu (right-click) key, for whatever reason. And don't even get me started on the bastardized function keys lately. That's why they can pry my MS Surface ergo keyboard from my cold, dead hands.
- Izkata 6y ago
  Yeah, my current one doesn't have the context-menu key. Of all the things that could have been put in its place, I have PrtSc (Print Screen) instead. I suppose at least there's still a key, could remap it to something else.

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Having a second Alt key on the right side (instead of AltGr) is one of my favourite features of the US layout in contrast to UK. I just don't get why some keybo

by frissdiegurke 6y ago

runarberg 6y ago
Many international keyboard layouts (including German, Danish, and Icelandic) use AltGr to reach the third level shift. We need this key to type e.g. at (@), brackets ([, ], {, }), backslash (\), and tilde (~). The ANSI (US) standard keyboard is also missing a key that is most often used to type the less then, greater then, and pipe (<, >, |) in most layouts (right of the smaller left shift key). To make things worse Macs overload Alt and AltGr into a single Option key. This makes Mac keyboard really hard to use for programming (and makes many people accidentally close the window when trying to type @). Most international programmers that I know have simply given up on their native keyboard layouts because of these problems.
stronglikedan 6y ago
Unfortunately, US keyboards are quickly getting rid of the right hand super key, as well as the context menu (right-click) key, for whatever reason. And don't even get me started on the bastardized function keys lately. That's why they can pry my MS Surface ergo keyboard from my cold, dead hands.
- Izkata 6y ago
  Yeah, my current one doesn't have the context-menu key. Of all the things that could have been put in its place, I have PrtSc (Print Screen) instead. I suppose at least there's still a key, could remap it to something else.