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We're 4 months into the pandemic and their workload is only going to get worse if we have nationwide mail in ballots. If they're going to do something, they sho

We're 4 months into the pandemic and their workload is only going to get worse if we have nationwide mail in ballots. If they're going to do something, they should get on it instead of letting their members suffer.

whatsmyusername 6y ago
They are doing something. Screwing up the system is the goal. They tried, 'Poll numbers got you down? Just start a war!' but it didn't work because no one is interested in fulfillment Bolton's wet dream of starting WW3 with Iran. So now it's, 'Poll numbers got you down? Just cheat!'
sergers 6y ago
Not sure about USPS specifically, but our canada post is just finally catching up now. They explained it was basically christmas holiday load, without the extra staff, with less staff on a non busy time (people taking covid related time off for sickness and family).
- starky 6y ago
  While I definitely had a couple packages arrive late in the April/May timeframe, since June I've had a couple packages actually show up before the delivery date Canada Post gave.
  - sergers 6y ago
    Yea since June definately been better. Seems they caught up on international (from china) customs backlog. Ordered in March, came early June. Recent ordered in July, got china package in 2 weeks
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jeffbee 6y ago
You'd have to be pretty crazy to actually mail your mail-in ballot. What is the only way to expose every election in the country to the meddling of the federal executive branch? Interpose the USPS between the voter and local election officials! Whether by incompetence or malice they'll find a way to fuck it up. I intend to carry my own ballot to the county election office.
- usefulcat 6y ago
  That's fine for you but that's not saying much because that approach is not at all scalable.
  - jeffbee 6y ago
    Wait, why? It scales at least as well as in-person voting.
    - munk-a 6y ago
      Welp, I'm an out-of-country voter personally. I can't really walk 3000 miles.
      - jeffbee 6y ago
        When I lived abroad I delivered my ballot to my nearest consulate. I understand they are just putting it in the mail, of course.
    - snowron6 6y ago
      Except in areas that use more polling stations than they have county election offices.
      - frank2 6y ago
        In California at least, you can drop your mail-in ballot off at a polling station.
cameldrv 6y ago
I don't think that mail in ballots will significantly affect the USPS. They do about half a billion mail items per day. Ballots for everyone who is registered to vote is mabye 200 million. Ballots are also small. Packages take much more time to handle by the mail carrier.
- munk-a 6y ago
  Critically, mail in ballots are generally not accepted late. USPS will get everything where it's going eventually - but if the Trump appointee announces an impromtu postal holiday the week before the election then 1. Probably nothing technically illegal has happened 2. Nobody's mail-in-vote will arrive in time to be counted This coupled with the fact that those rabid Trump fans will be showing up at the polls in person might[1] be enough to tip it in his favor. 1. It still might not be enough though, he is doing hilariously abysmally in polls.
  - dhosek 6y ago
    As Wisconsin demonstrated, the attempts at voter suppression will likely backfire. If the Republicans had agreed to mail-in balloting or a delayed primary, they might have held on to the state supreme court seat they lost, but what they ended up doing kept Republican voters home (why go vote in person in a pandemic when there's no top of the ballot choice to make) while the Democrats stood in line (between the obvious attempt to make them stay home [Streisand effect] and the real impact of their top of the ballot choice). I'm just some schmuck in another state and I could see the likely outcome of the attempt at voting suppression before it happened, but Republicans seem to have only two tools in their toolbox anymore: tax cuts and voter suppression, and those tools aren't doing the job now and hurt more than help.
  - lozaning 6y ago
    Doesn't your mail in ballot just need to be postmarked by election day to count? Its not the day its received, its the day its sent that counts.
    - detaro 6y ago

whatsmyusername 6y ago

They are doing something. Screwing up the system is the goal. They tried, 'Poll numbers got you down? Just start a war!' but it didn't work because no one is interested in fulfillment Bolton's wet dream of starting WW3 with Iran. So now it's, 'Poll numbers got you down? Just cheat!'

sergers 6y ago

Not sure about USPS specifically, but our canada post is just finally catching up now. They explained it was basically christmas holiday load, without the extra staff, with less staff on a non busy time (people taking covid related time off for sickness and family).

starky 6y ago
While I definitely had a couple packages arrive late in the April/May timeframe, since June I've had a couple packages actually show up before the delivery date Canada Post gave.
- sergers 6y ago
  Yea since June definately been better. Seems they caught up on international (from china) customs backlog. Ordered in March, came early June. Recent ordered in July, got china package in 2 weeks

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jeffbee 6y ago

You'd have to be pretty crazy to actually mail your mail-in ballot. What is the only way to expose every election in the country to the meddling of the federal executive branch? Interpose the USPS between the voter and local election officials! Whether by incompetence or malice they'll find a way to fuck it up. I intend to carry my own ballot to the county election office.

usefulcat 6y ago
That's fine for you but that's not saying much because that approach is not at all scalable.
- jeffbee 6y ago
  Wait, why? It scales at least as well as in-person voting.
  - munk-a 6y ago
    Welp, I'm an out-of-country voter personally. I can't really walk 3000 miles.
    - jeffbee 6y ago
      When I lived abroad I delivered my ballot to my nearest consulate. I understand they are just putting it in the mail, of course.
  - snowron6 6y ago
    Except in areas that use more polling stations than they have county election offices.
    - frank2 6y ago
      In California at least, you can drop your mail-in ballot off at a polling station.

cameldrv 6y ago

I don't think that mail in ballots will significantly affect the USPS. They do about half a billion mail items per day. Ballots for everyone who is registered to vote is mabye 200 million. Ballots are also small. Packages take much more time to handle by the mail carrier.

munk-a 6y ago
Critically, mail in ballots are generally not accepted late. USPS will get everything where it's going eventually - but if the Trump appointee announces an impromtu postal holiday the week before the election then 1. Probably nothing technically illegal has happened 2. Nobody's mail-in-vote will arrive in time to be counted This coupled with the fact that those rabid Trump fans will be showing up at the polls in person might[1] be enough to tip it in his favor. 1. It still might not be enough though, he is doing hilariously abysmally in polls.
- dhosek 6y ago
  As Wisconsin demonstrated, the attempts at voter suppression will likely backfire. If the Republicans had agreed to mail-in balloting or a delayed primary, they might have held on to the state supreme court seat they lost, but what they ended up doing kept Republican voters home (why go vote in person in a pandemic when there's no top of the ballot choice to make) while the Democrats stood in line (between the obvious attempt to make them stay home [Streisand effect] and the real impact of their top of the ballot choice). I'm just some schmuck in another state and I could see the likely outcome of the attempt at voting suppression before it happened, but Republicans seem to have only two tools in their toolbox anymore: tax cuts and voter suppression, and those tools aren't doing the job now and hurt more than help.
- lozaning 6y ago
  Doesn't your mail in ballot just need to be postmarked by election day to count? Its not the day its received, its the day its sent that counts.
  - detaro 6y ago