hmm maybe I've misunderstood the parent comment or the PG essay. I read them like this: Parent comment: I haven't felt censored, therefore there is no problem.

hmm maybe I've misunderstood the parent comment or the PG essay. I read them like this: Parent comment: I haven't felt censored, therefore there is no problem. PG essay: This isn't a good argument for the absence of censorship, since some people adopt their opinions wholesale from the dominant orthodoxy of their times, making it logically impossible for them to say anything heterodox. Such people would therefore never feel censored. Anyway, that's my take. How do you you see them as saying the same thing? I think the PG essay does talk about conventions changing, which you did a very good job of illustrating with your booth babe example...though in the essay, he seems more interested in good opiions that run counter to current conventions rather than bad ones that convention endorses (like booth babes).