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That's a great philosophy to have and I haven't a clue what it has to do with the Pinebook Pro. AFAICT all the relevant video drivers are upstreamed. Additiona

That's a great philosophy to have and I haven't a clue what it has to do with the Pinebook Pro. AFAICT all the relevant video drivers are upstreamed. Additionally, there has been official support in Debian since April plus an unofficial installer for Debian. Plus a pretty healthy interest in the Manjaro community and a lot of other distros. (I received my PBP in December, btw.) What I'm saying is if you're a hacker and want to go the route of picking your favorite distro for a first-time-out Linux laptop, you really ought to be able to differentiate between borked configuration (esp. where reverse-engineered free drivers for a notoriously unfriendly GPU company) and underpowered hardware. A good way to ensure success is to try out the hardware with the default install the devs shipped. The author didn't bother to do that and his review is misleading for it.

wtallis 6y ago
You're the one who said that it's unreasonable to expect a run of the mill distro shipping an upstream kernel to work on this platform. But now you're trying to talk about underpowered hardware as if that has something to do with being unable to start X in the first place? The author experienced clear signs that this platform's software support is not mature. You seem to want to blame Debian rather than the new platform and its immature drivers.
- jancsika 6y ago
  > The author experienced clear signs that this platform's software support is not mature. The author claimed that alt-tabbing takes about one second. This was not true on default install using Mate from December. Author claims that merely entering a directory containing a Git repo freezes the terminal. Again, clearly not true using stock Mate terminal. Author goes on to rankly speculate that the problems with this laptop may be "CPU and disk side." Again, completely misleading as to the actual hardware as I stated above. And easily corrected by merely testing with the default OS Pine shipped. Aside from Panfrost I have no idea why the author ran into those problems. But he doesn't either, and he falsely attributed them to hardware limitations when it was facile to check his error by running the laptop for perhaps five minutes in the default install.

wtallis 6y ago

You're the one who said that it's unreasonable to expect a run of the mill distro shipping an upstream kernel to work on this platform. But now you're trying to talk about underpowered hardware as if that has something to do with being unable to start X in the first place? The author experienced clear signs that this platform's software support is not mature. You seem to want to blame Debian rather than the new platform and its immature drivers.

jancsika 6y ago
> The author experienced clear signs that this platform's software support is not mature. The author claimed that alt-tabbing takes about one second. This was not true on default install using Mate from December. Author claims that merely entering a directory containing a Git repo freezes the terminal. Again, clearly not true using stock Mate terminal. Author goes on to rankly speculate that the problems with this laptop may be "CPU and disk side." Again, completely misleading as to the actual hardware as I stated above. And easily corrected by merely testing with the default OS Pine shipped. Aside from Panfrost I have no idea why the author ran into those problems. But he doesn't either, and he falsely attributed them to hardware limitations when it was facile to check his error by running the laptop for perhaps five minutes in the default install.