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What is this user doing lol? I've run Linux on an absolutely ancient Thinkpad because we had some stuff in the field that needed serial/parallel port for comms.

What is this user doing lol? I've run Linux on an absolutely ancient Thinkpad because we had some stuff in the field that needed serial/parallel port for comms. It ran fine as long as you didn't have 10 tabs open. And Slack has become a bloated piece of crap. It lags like hell on everything I own. It takes a few seconds to switch between channels and workspaces on my overclocked 3700x with 32gb of ram on fiber.

vosper 6y ago
Is the performance of the app the same as the website? I’ve only ever run Slack in a browser tab, and haven't had much in the way of performance problems.
- throwaway189262 6y ago
  Ironically, I've found it to be worse. No idea why
novok 6y ago
I think something is up with your slack instance or computer. I have a 2017 15" macbook pro and never get channel changes taking seconds.
- literallycancer 6y ago
  It's a chat program. It should run just fine on 2007 laptops. Shitty engineering is what's up with it.
_trampeltier 6y ago
Modern software is soooo terrible. It's not just bloated, the animation of every action, "smooth" opening a menu or a window are so slow. Everything is so slow these days. When you'r just in an office and click a bit around it is all nice, fine and shiny. But as soon as you are in a hurry, these animations feel like hours .. you click 20 times on the wrong place because animations are so slow .. one day I will bend my pretty fast ZBook on work over my knee because I'm f*ing angry.
- throwaway189262 6y ago
  Oh God I hate the animations! Sometimes I wonder if "UI designers" are a net negative on many projects. Most software is functional machinery, not art. It's important for sales pages and ads to be pretty. Web apps just need to work well, keep the UI guys away from me :)
AnthonyMouse 6y ago
"Ancient" doesn't really work as a measure of performance anymore. Sandy Bridge is almost ten years old but it's still about half as fast as the fastest x64 processors with the same number of cores and quite a bit faster than a lot of "modern" low-end ARM processors.
panny 6y ago
>What is this user doing lol? Right? From the comments in the article, >It should be much faster than a Raspberry pi 3 that do not have all those problems. I agree. User doesn't know what he's doing yet. One tip I would offer him is avoid Firefox. Firefox is built with Rust[1], which doesn't support ARM as a Tier 1 platform. He would be MUCH better off using Chromium, which supports numerous ARM Chromebooks running this exact CPU just fine. [1] https://4e6.github.io/firefox-lang-stats/ https://4e6.github.io/firefox-lang-stats/
- steveklabnik 6y ago
  It's funny you should mention that; first of all, Chomebooks also run Rust code, at a really low layer. (Also, it appears the Chrome team is experimenting with putting Rust in Chrome too; no clue how serious or how likely though). The hypervisor stuff is in it. Secondly, ARM is on its way to Tier 1, supported by the company itself. (I use Chrome these days...)
- throwaway189262 6y ago
  Rust benefits from optimizations in LLVM, same compiler chrome uses. You are right that they might be missing some hand optimized ASM for some routines, but I don't think that's enough that performance would be a lot worse.

vosper 6y ago

Is the performance of the app the same as the website? I’ve only ever run Slack in a browser tab, and haven't had much in the way of performance problems.

throwaway189262 6y ago
Ironically, I've found it to be worse. No idea why

novok 6y ago

I think something is up with your slack instance or computer. I have a 2017 15" macbook pro and never get channel changes taking seconds.

literallycancer 6y ago
It's a chat program. It should run just fine on 2007 laptops. Shitty engineering is what's up with it.

_trampeltier 6y ago

Modern software is soooo terrible. It's not just bloated, the animation of every action, "smooth" opening a menu or a window are so slow. Everything is so slow these days. When you'r just in an office and click a bit around it is all nice, fine and shiny. But as soon as you are in a hurry, these animations feel like hours .. you click 20 times on the wrong place because animations are so slow .. one day I will bend my pretty fast ZBook on work over my knee because I'm f*ing angry.

throwaway189262 6y ago
Oh God I hate the animations! Sometimes I wonder if "UI designers" are a net negative on many projects. Most software is functional machinery, not art. It's important for sales pages and ads to be pretty. Web apps just need to work well, keep the UI guys away from me :)

AnthonyMouse 6y ago

"Ancient" doesn't really work as a measure of performance anymore. Sandy Bridge is almost ten years old but it's still about half as fast as the fastest x64 processors with the same number of cores and quite a bit faster than a lot of "modern" low-end ARM processors.

panny 6y ago

>What is this user doing lol? Right? From the comments in the article, >It should be much faster than a Raspberry pi 3 that do not have all those problems. I agree. User doesn't know what he's doing yet. One tip I would offer him is avoid Firefox. Firefox is built with Rust[1], which doesn't support ARM as a Tier 1 platform. He would be MUCH better off using Chromium, which supports numerous ARM Chromebooks running this exact CPU just fine. [1] https://4e6.github.io/firefox-lang-stats/ https://4e6.github.io/firefox-lang-stats/

steveklabnik 6y ago
It's funny you should mention that; first of all, Chomebooks also run Rust code, at a really low layer. (Also, it appears the Chrome team is experimenting with putting Rust in Chrome too; no clue how serious or how likely though). The hypervisor stuff is in it. Secondly, ARM is on its way to Tier 1, supported by the company itself. (I use Chrome these days...)
throwaway189262 6y ago
Rust benefits from optimizations in LLVM, same compiler chrome uses. You are right that they might be missing some hand optimized ASM for some routines, but I don't think that's enough that performance would be a lot worse.