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> Sweden seems to have had a lot more deaths than it normally does and I haven’t seen anything saying otherwise - however you clearly have. Most countries expe
by henrikschroder 6y ago
> Sweden seems to have had a lot more deaths than it normally does and I haven’t seen anything saying otherwise - however you clearly have.
Most countries experience excess deaths during flu season, and some flu seasons are worse than others. Sweden absolutely had excess deaths for a couple of months this year, but you have to look at the bigger picture.
So here are graphs of total deaths per million per month for the past 40 years in Germany, Sweden, France, and Belgium: https://medium.com/@FrankfurtZack/unprecedented-overall-mortality-in-sweden-and-other-european-countries-cd8fcdd6174a https://medium.com/@FrankfurtZack/unprecedented-overall-mort...
Now, 2020 isn't over yet, there might be a second wave of covid-19 in the winter, but given how the virus has died out with the small amount of measures taken, I don't think that's very likely. So far, 2020 in Sweden is tracking below average total deaths, even if you include all the covid-19 deaths.
If this year was "devastating", then what would you call the flu season of 1988, 1993, or 1999? Those flu seasons saw higher excess deaths than 2020 in Sweden, and no-one noticed or cared. No news articles, no reports, no lockdowns, no face masks, no travel closures, nothing. We did nothing out of the ordinary.
Now, covid-19 is more lethal than the viruses of those flu seasons, and we have no vaccine for this one, so some response is warranted. But the current worldwide hysteria is unprecedented, we have never before cared this much for this few deaths.
- threatripper 6y agoCorona started when the flu season normally ends and it seems that summer with the majority of activity outdoors has quit some damping effect on the spread. We will have to live through the winter till next spring to do a comparison. If you want to compare COVID-19 with the flu I think that the data so far suggests that letality rate is about 10 times higher and the number of infections is also about 10 times higher due to lack of immunity from previous infections. I don't say that the "normal flu" is harmless, either. Nor that COVID-19 is like the plague or "harmless" like the flu. Nor that we should simply do nothing when the next infection wave comes.