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> 1/3% of those who didn’t die seem to have debilitating persistent problems Source? All I've seen so far has been anecdotal evidence.

azinman2 6y ago
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm
- anoncake 6y ago
  2-3 weeks is not even remotely persistent.
  - azinman2 6y ago
    That is the CDC’s survey. There’s plenty of data out there suggesting many people are experiencing more potentially permanent effects / damage.
    - anoncake 6y ago
      That's a fine source if you want to prove that fully recovering from COVID often takes more than a few weeks. But that is not the question here. > There’s plenty of data out there suggesting many people are experiencing more potentially permanent effects / damage. Since you already know that data, would you please tell me where to find it?
      - azinman2 6y ago
        https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-covid-related-symptoms-persist-recovery.html https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-covid-related-symptom... A Google search will yield many results. It’s not hard to find.
        anoncake 6y ago
        So you can't. Got it.
        azinman2 6y ago
        I literally provided a link to you showing exactly that. Did you not read it? But I'll feed the troll, why not: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/two-months-after-infection-covid-19-symptoms-persist/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/two-months-after-inf... https://www.prevention.com/health/a33432800/long-term-covid-19-symptoms/ https://www.prevention.com/health/a33432800/long-term-covid-... https://www.healthrising.org/blog/2020/07/24/open-letter-covid-19-long-hauler-me-cfs/ https://www.healthrising.org/blog/2020/07/24/open-letter-cov... https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/health/2020/07/25/covid-19-long-haulers-fight-months-lingering-symptoms/5420534002/ https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/health/2020/07/25/cov... https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-it-means-to-be-a-coronavirus-long-hauler/ https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-it-means-to-be-a-cor... https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/06/09/long-haul-symptoms https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/06/09/long-haul... https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/07/21/covid-19-long-hauler-breathing https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/07/21/covid-19-long-hau... https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-tail-coronavirus-prolong-months.html https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-tail-coronavirus-prol... https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-19-long-haulers-report-nearly-100-symptoms-more-100-n1235217 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-19-long-hau... https://www.today.com/health/covid-19-long-haulers-doctor-talks-having-symptoms-over-2-t185712 https://www.today.com/health/covid-19-long-haulers-doctor-ta... Satisfied now?
        anoncake 6y ago
        10 articles of anecdotes are just as worthless as 1.
        azinman2 6y ago
        The Rome study linked was 143 people, not 10. It seems like you’re moving the goal posts. You said you can’t produce one, I originally did and followed up with many more. Then you say that’s worthless, which means you didn’t even read those links. You’re not discussing things in good faith, which is a violation of the norms here in HN. We saw the same pattern with far bigger studies with SARS. The fact of the matter is this is all very new, and conclusive data will take time. But there’s plenty of evidence already to suggest that for some it behaves like SARS and that’s very concerning. We also don’t know if this will behave like herpes or chickenpox and cause problems later in life even for those who “recovered.” There’s a reason why the world world is taking this seriously.

azinman2 6y ago

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm

anoncake 6y ago
2-3 weeks is not even remotely persistent.
- azinman2 6y ago
  That is the CDC’s survey. There’s plenty of data out there suggesting many people are experiencing more potentially permanent effects / damage.
  - anoncake 6y ago
    That's a fine source if you want to prove that fully recovering from COVID often takes more than a few weeks. But that is not the question here. > There’s plenty of data out there suggesting many people are experiencing more potentially permanent effects / damage. Since you already know that data, would you please tell me where to find it?
    - azinman2 6y ago
      https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-covid-related-symptoms-persist-recovery.html https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-covid-related-symptom... A Google search will yield many results. It’s not hard to find.
      - anoncake 6y ago
        So you can't. Got it.
        azinman2 6y ago
        I literally provided a link to you showing exactly that. Did you not read it? But I'll feed the troll, why not: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/two-months-after-infection-covid-19-symptoms-persist/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/two-months-after-inf... https://www.prevention.com/health/a33432800/long-term-covid-19-symptoms/ https://www.prevention.com/health/a33432800/long-term-covid-... https://www.healthrising.org/blog/2020/07/24/open-letter-covid-19-long-hauler-me-cfs/ https://www.healthrising.org/blog/2020/07/24/open-letter-cov... https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/health/2020/07/25/covid-19-long-haulers-fight-months-lingering-symptoms/5420534002/ https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/health/2020/07/25/cov... https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-it-means-to-be-a-coronavirus-long-hauler/ https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-it-means-to-be-a-cor... https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/06/09/long-haul-symptoms https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/06/09/long-haul... https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/07/21/covid-19-long-hauler-breathing https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/07/21/covid-19-long-hau... https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-tail-coronavirus-prolong-months.html https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-tail-coronavirus-prol... https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-19-long-haulers-report-nearly-100-symptoms-more-100-n1235217 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-19-long-hau... https://www.today.com/health/covid-19-long-haulers-doctor-talks-having-symptoms-over-2-t185712 https://www.today.com/health/covid-19-long-haulers-doctor-ta... Satisfied now?
        anoncake 6y ago
        10 articles of anecdotes are just as worthless as 1.
        azinman2 6y ago
        The Rome study linked was 143 people, not 10. It seems like you’re moving the goal posts. You said you can’t produce one, I originally did and followed up with many more. Then you say that’s worthless, which means you didn’t even read those links. You’re not discussing things in good faith, which is a violation of the norms here in HN. We saw the same pattern with far bigger studies with SARS. The fact of the matter is this is all very new, and conclusive data will take time. But there’s plenty of evidence already to suggest that for some it behaves like SARS and that’s very concerning. We also don’t know if this will behave like herpes or chickenpox and cause problems later in life even for those who “recovered.” There’s a reason why the world world is taking this seriously.