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But seeds cast a whole other dimension onto this problem... It is not a problem if they send you a cheap plastic bracelet but seeds can have unforseen consequen
by coronadisaster 6y ago
But seeds cast a whole other dimension onto this problem... It is not a problem if they send you a cheap plastic bracelet but seeds can have unforseen consequences
- balola 6y agoSeeds are a common e-commerce scam, coz by the time you knew what it turned out to be, it's too late to do anything.
- belval 6y agoIndeed, the seed page on Aliexpress is one the most peculiar thing I've seen in a while, blue strawberries, giant tomatoes (advertised to be as big as a watermelon) and all sorts of other weird fruits. I spent 5$ on these a while back with some friends, about 50% never arrived and the other 50% didn't sprout. Could be my bad though.
- gbrown 6y agoIf you actually want weird seeds, try Baker Creek.
- chromatin 6y agoI can vouch for Baker Creek. We have grown some incredible heirloom plants.
- asah 6y agoDitto. Purple beans ftw!
- BenjiWiebe 6y agoYes, Baker creek is awesome! Also their seed catalog is the prettiest/most enjoyable one I've ever seen.
- BTCOG 6y agoJust reminded me of someone I knew back in 2015 that ordered some of these strange off color blue strawberries and fruits, most of his Chinese seeds did not germinate, but the few that did were a strange little regular plant that were not thoroughly bred well. I would never try to order seeds outside of your local famous standard seed houses.
- varenc 6y agoIs it just me, or does it seem like resistance is futile? If Virgina's ecology depends on people reading that obscure notice, it's already over. Though optimistically, perhaps the worst and most destructive invasive threats have already arrived?
- emmelaich 6y agoAustralia do well with biosecurity, but it requires a lot of vigilance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosecurity_in_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosecurity_in_Australia
- a_bonobo 6y agoAs someone who is a biologist in Australia, oh my god is it a headache to get seeds into Australia. Lots of paperwork involved if we actually want to grow overseas plants, much easier to import extracted RNA or DNA (but way riskier for the research, shipping companies aren't trustworthy in keeping smaller shipments on ice). The dogs and the x-ray at the airport are not for drugs, they're mostly biosecurity, too. I can't see something like the OP happening in Australia, it would get destroyed at the border
- paranoidrobot 6y agoFellow Australian here, and I've always viewed our biosecurity as being pretty tight and effective, too. Apparently however small innocuous packets/letters don't receive quite as much screening, as I've heard of people getting marijuana seeds in the mail just fine.
- sandworm101 6y agoAnd private planes don't seem to be inspected. If Depp can get his dogs through undetected seeds shouldn't be a problem.
- tomxor 6y agoConsidering how one or two seeds can be enough if the purpose is simply to acquire the species it seems like an impossible task to prevent that. It's far more difficult than drug smuggling which only works in some reasonable quantity - and becomes more like information smuggling in biological form where you only need one copy.
- dongbecom 6y agoWell their government already sent out coronavirus to the world (by not closing down wet market, by carelessly releasing the virus from the Wuhan lab, whichever) that killed our grandparents and destroyed our economy. I doubt these seeds can do worse. Unless they are radioactive seeds.
- ganafagol 6y agoWtf man, go do your propaganda someplace else..
- petre 6y agoYup like wooden crates packaging actual products but infested with emerald ash bohrer or asian long horned beetle larvae. Only NZ and AU have an effective biisecurity policies.
- jalk 6y agoI have shipped some of my belongings from Scandinavia to California and back, in plywood crates. Shipping company said that if the crates were untreated, customs in both ends would bake them at rather high temp to kill insects (content still inside). Unsure if that is true or just a myth to make people comply
- petre 6y agoI'm not the least bit surprised after what happened with A. glabripennis. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_long-horned_beetle https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_long-horned_beetle
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoNot really. Apparently folks can order these seeds already? So its happening, notice or no notice. It seems inevitable that seeds of every plant will be in gardens of every conceivable corner of the earth. Starting in the 1700's with botanists traveling the world to collect and disseminate them. Which gave us modern corn, wheat, flowering plants, grasses, succulents and nearly everything we grow, harvest and appreciate today. May be a little late to start being concerned about this.
- codeulike 6y agoIt seems inevitable that seeds of every plant will be in gardens of every conceivable corner of the earth. Not inevitable at all. Try arriving in Australia with a piece of fruit in your hand luggage, or try arriving in New Zealand with mud on your walking boots, and see what happens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosecurity_in_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosecurity_in_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosecurity_in_New_Zealand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosecurity_in_New_Zealand
- sandworm101 6y agoNot for rich people flying on thier own planes. They don't seem to get inspected. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-36052243 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-36052243
- lijf 6y agoI actually arrived in New Zealand with mud under my walking boots once - we had been trecking on Rarotonga, Cook Islands the day before, and I had not read the customs rules for NZ before filling in the paper slip, shortly before getting off the plane (if I remember correctly, it was approximately 10 years ago) - I had to wash the soles in a shallow tub with some sort of squishy pillow in it.
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoTry ordering seeds thru Amazon? Who's looking at that?
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- Fnoord 6y agoIts a waste of resources in case of cheap plastic bracelet. In both cases, it all adds up the pile of pointless S&H.
- coronadisaster 6y agoYes, they are also waste of resources and a review spamming problem. I should have phrased that better.
- DLA 6y agoWould not surprise me if this is a state-controlled campaign to cause harm.