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Authoritarianism doesn’t happen all at once. Trump continues to test his limits. The DHS is currently being run by someone who was never approved by Congress an

by js2 6y ago

Authoritarianism doesn’t happen all at once. Trump continues to test his limits. The DHS is currently being run by someone who was never approved by Congress and in violation of the law for how long an acting director is allowed to be in place. The DHS officers are now pushing our several blocks away from the Federal buildings. Compare Trump’s response to how the government responded to the Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge where a federal building was occupied for 40 days and cost the Federal government millions of dollars. But the Feds didn’t escalate the situation like Trump and the DHS are attempting to do. This is a three block area of Portland. The city is not overrun. The protests are largely peaceful. I don’t condone the graffiti or anyone trying to damage the building but the Federal response is over the top and unjustified. Trump would like nothing more than a huge escalation in events. That there’s any similarity between the events in Tiananmen and in Portland by the authorities is not okay.

koheripbal 6y ago
> Authoritarianism doesn’t happen all at once. I don't think protecting the Courthouse is authoritarianism AT ALL. It's protecting a Federal building. > The protests are largely peaceful The anarchists are not protesters. They aren't at all the same people. The vast numbers of peaceful protesters don't change the need for police to contain the ~200 anarchists trying to destroy the Federal Courthouse. > Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge This is an insane comparison. A major west coast Federal Courthouse, home to the US 9th Circuit Federal Court of Appeals as well as a number of Federal offices, is absolutely NOTHING like occupying a small park Welcome center: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/MalheurNWRHeadquarters.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/MalheurN... . Was that even a serious comment? > I don’t condone the graffiti or anyone trying to damage the building but the Federal response is over the top and unjustified. The Federal response doesn't go far enough. The people attacking the building need to be arrested and sentenced to prison for attempted arson of a Federal Courthouse - ideally by the judges who's courthouse they are trying to burn down. > Trump would like nothing more than a huge escalation in events. I agree. So they should stop trying to burn down the Federal Courthouse. > That there’s any similarity between the events in Tiananmen and in Portland by the authorities is not okay. There isn't of any significance. You can always claim "similarities" when your bar for such is so low. Hitler and Trump both breathed oxygen - did you know that? Obviously he's a Nazi leader reincarnate.

by js2 6y ago

koheripbal 6y ago

> Authoritarianism doesn’t happen all at once. I don't think protecting the Courthouse is authoritarianism AT ALL. It's protecting a Federal building. > The protests are largely peaceful The anarchists are not protesters. They aren't at all the same people. The vast numbers of peaceful protesters don't change the need for police to contain the ~200 anarchists trying to destroy the Federal Courthouse. > Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge This is an insane comparison. A major west coast Federal Courthouse, home to the US 9th Circuit Federal Court of Appeals as well as a number of Federal offices, is absolutely NOTHING like occupying a small park Welcome center: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/MalheurNWRHeadquarters.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/MalheurN... . Was that even a serious comment? > I don’t condone the graffiti or anyone trying to damage the building but the Federal response is over the top and unjustified. The Federal response doesn't go far enough. The people attacking the building need to be arrested and sentenced to prison for attempted arson of a Federal Courthouse - ideally by the judges who's courthouse they are trying to burn down. > Trump would like nothing more than a huge escalation in events. I agree. So they should stop trying to burn down the Federal Courthouse. > That there’s any similarity between the events in Tiananmen and in Portland by the authorities is not okay. There isn't of any significance. You can always claim "similarities" when your bar for such is so low. Hitler and Trump both breathed oxygen - did you know that? Obviously he's a Nazi leader reincarnate.