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It’s also not even clear whether he’s wrong! We now know COVID19 is far less deadly than we thought, including the fact that it predominately affects those in t
by dannyw 6y ago
It’s also not even clear whether he’s wrong! We now know COVID19 is far less deadly than we thought, including the fact that it predominately affects those in their 70s and above. But we also know that lockdowns have:
• causes cancer patients to miss cancer treatment, with an increase in deaths
• caused people to defer medical treatment, including vital “elective” surgery as well as diagnosis of treatable conditions
• caused harm to mental health and increase in domestic violence, which has led to suicides, and will lead to more suicides
• caused students to get a worse education and abnormal social development; with unknown effects on the rest of their life
• caused significant damage to the economy, limiting the economic potential of the future and the kids that are growing up now
When we tally up all the damage, and compare it versus Covid deaths of a no-lockdown but ban large events, isolate seniors approach, which one will win?
And I might get some flak for saying this, but I don’t believe all lives to be equal. A teenager who kills themselves has lost 70 years of life. A senior in their 90s who died has quite possibility lost 5 or less years of life.
If you’re interested in researching this further, I’d encourage you to check out LockdownSkepticsm on reddit. We aren’t against public health measures like universal mask wearing, but we are for evidence-based assessment of what has lower TOTAL damage.
And yes, the initial data supporting lockdowns did turn out to be incredibly wrong. We know because we went from estimating 2-3% CFR to 0.4% CFR (CDC, May 2020). And today, we know how effective MASKS are, which public health authorities discouraged during the start...
- roywiggins 6y agoHow would NYC have applied your ideas in March?
- tzs 6y agoIn the US, 35% of the deaths among Hispanics were people under 65, and 29% of the deaths among non-white people. 13% for whites. Overall, 24.4% of deaths were from people under 65. [1] That doesn't sound like predominately affecting people in their 70s and above to me. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e1.htm
- nkurz 6y agoThat's an interesting report. Thanks for linking it!
- AnonC 6y agoYour comment focuses too much on death despite pointing out that the death rate isn’t very high. What you’ve not mentioned, maybe because you forgot or weren’t aware, is that getting infected and surviving could mean long term lung damage, sensory problems, brain damage, heart problems and many other things we’re discovering and still trying to understand them better. The long term effects of contracting COVID-19 aren’t fully known and fully defined yet. That will take time to figure out. Meanwhile, fighting against every public safety measure (like some people are wont to do) is very problematic.
- jsnell 6y agoThe current US CFR is 3.5% (4.3M confirmed cases, 150k deaths). Nobody was estimating a 3% IFR in March. > but we are for evidence-based assessment Uh-huh. So is it that this "evidence-based" community doesn't understand the difference between IFR and CFR, or that you're intentionally using the two interchangably if it helps your argument?