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No, that’s just yellow journalism. The USA is doing just fine thank you. The “second wave” is the whole point of flattening the curve, as long as hospitals aren

by jquery 6y ago

No, that’s just yellow journalism. The USA is doing just fine thank you. The “second wave” is the whole point of flattening the curve, as long as hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, our response is successful. Look at our respective stock markets for a more accurate view of the situation. They’re tracking very close, even adjusting for currency float. The USA is nowhere near falling apart.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> The “second wave” is the whole point of flattening the curve We didn't really flatten the curve except briefly in a few places like CA; the supposed national curve flattening is an artifact of the fact that the New York epidemic peaked a declined as the rest of the country was (and largely still is) on the upswing. This is just the first wave hitting more places with no effective mitigation, not a second wave. > as long as hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, our response is successful. Hospitals are overwhelmed in a growing number of parts of the country, out response is not successful. > Look at our respective stock markets for a more accurate view of the situation. Not really, the big firms on most stock markets are international conglomerates, and the major indexes don't really have much to do with national conditions.
- thu2111 6y ago
  Where are hospitals overwhelmed in the USA? And I mean, like, in a region. Not a single hospital - brief overloads in single hospitals happens in normal times too.
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hurrdurr2 6y ago
Ahh yes. The stock market is doing great hence we are fine. I'm sure our president and his sycophants also completely believe this.
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Falling3 6y ago
Hospitals are now at the point of being overwhelmed in several hotspots, particularly in Texas. You're just flat at wrong on every aspect of your comment.
ulfw 6y ago
Absolutely sickening to see how people don’t care 100s of thousands are dying as long as their “stock market” is up
- smaryjerry 6y ago
  There is so much misinformation online and in this thread. Take off the s of that figure in the US. That is a lie, the death count is only over a hundred thousand and COVID-19 deaths at their peak accounted for only 20 % of deaths In the country. So everyone had an 80% chance to die from something other than COVID-19. Today you have about 95% chance of dying from something other than COVID-19 in every age group. While it reasonable to be afraid of death, you should now be much more afraid of dying from other causes than dying from COVID-19. The curve has more than been flattened.
  - Balgair 6y ago
    > The curve has more than been flattened. Maaaaybe, but it sure has 'flattened' at a very high number of cases and the death curve seems to be rising still https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_gfx-virus-tracker%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&itid=hp_hp-top-table-main_gfx-virus-tracker%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/corona...
    - smaryjerry 6y ago
      That article doesn’t provide any meaningful information on deaths. It does saying they are “spiking” in certain states but any review of data in the US will show that deaths are not increasing nationwide and the “upticks” in COVID-19 deaths are very very small compared to the history, every person who actually views the data would call it flat. We are talking about a roughly 70% decrease in deaths from COVID-19 from the peak. As I mentioned you used to have 22.25% chance a death was caused by COVID-19 and now if you die there is only roughly 5% chance it was from COVID-19 and that number doesn’t even require laboratory testing to verify, if they thought COVID-19 was a likely cause of death without testing it is still counted in those numbers.

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dragonwriter 6y ago

> The “second wave” is the whole point of flattening the curve We didn't really flatten the curve except briefly in a few places like CA; the supposed national curve flattening is an artifact of the fact that the New York epidemic peaked a declined as the rest of the country was (and largely still is) on the upswing. This is just the first wave hitting more places with no effective mitigation, not a second wave. > as long as hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, our response is successful. Hospitals are overwhelmed in a growing number of parts of the country, out response is not successful. > Look at our respective stock markets for a more accurate view of the situation. Not really, the big firms on most stock markets are international conglomerates, and the major indexes don't really have much to do with national conditions.

thu2111 6y ago
Where are hospitals overwhelmed in the USA? And I mean, like, in a region. Not a single hospital - brief overloads in single hospitals happens in normal times too.

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hurrdurr2 6y ago

Ahh yes. The stock market is doing great hence we are fine. I'm sure our president and his sycophants also completely believe this.

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Falling3 6y ago

Hospitals are now at the point of being overwhelmed in several hotspots, particularly in Texas. You're just flat at wrong on every aspect of your comment.

ulfw 6y ago

Absolutely sickening to see how people don’t care 100s of thousands are dying as long as their “stock market” is up

smaryjerry 6y ago
There is so much misinformation online and in this thread. Take off the s of that figure in the US. That is a lie, the death count is only over a hundred thousand and COVID-19 deaths at their peak accounted for only 20 % of deaths In the country. So everyone had an 80% chance to die from something other than COVID-19. Today you have about 95% chance of dying from something other than COVID-19 in every age group. While it reasonable to be afraid of death, you should now be much more afraid of dying from other causes than dying from COVID-19. The curve has more than been flattened.
- Balgair 6y ago
  > The curve has more than been flattened. Maaaaybe, but it sure has 'flattened' at a very high number of cases and the death curve seems to be rising still https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_gfx-virus-tracker%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&itid=hp_hp-top-table-main_gfx-virus-tracker%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/corona...
  - smaryjerry 6y ago
    That article doesn’t provide any meaningful information on deaths. It does saying they are “spiking” in certain states but any review of data in the US will show that deaths are not increasing nationwide and the “upticks” in COVID-19 deaths are very very small compared to the history, every person who actually views the data would call it flat. We are talking about a roughly 70% decrease in deaths from COVID-19 from the peak. As I mentioned you used to have 22.25% chance a death was caused by COVID-19 and now if you die there is only roughly 5% chance it was from COVID-19 and that number doesn’t even require laboratory testing to verify, if they thought COVID-19 was a likely cause of death without testing it is still counted in those numbers.