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I just don't understand how there could have only been a single copy of those videos.

by trafficlight 16y ago

Retric 16y ago
Who says he only deleted a single file? It's not hard to delete stuff from online backup systems.
- Udo 16y ago
  No, I think what trafficlight meant was: how can there be only a single copy of this material? What about the media they actually shot the episodes on? Surely there must be some kind of copy on the cutting room computers? It looks as if they're mainly out to collect damages from the company.
  - Retric 16y ago
    The data breach allegedly knocked out 6,480 WER1 electronic files, or 300 gigabytes of data, comprising two years of work from hundreds of contributors globally, including animation artwork and live action video production. Sounds like they hosted everything in the "cloud". Consider what happens when you edit a Google doc, there is no offline backup just whatever Google provides. So sure they are not at zero, but plenty of stuff can and was lost.
    - Udo 16y ago
      That's what they claim, sure. But does it really work like that? It seems to me that there would have to be local copies of those videos, if for no other reason than synching production quality videos to the cloud in realtime is probably unrealistic. Maybe some HNer working in the TV industry can elaborate?
      - trafficlight 16y ago
        From what little video editing I've been involved in, we had source material in 2 or 3 different places, plus multiple edits of said material, plus rough edited timelines, plus the final product. And keeping everything in the cloud would be insane. In our shop every video editing workstation had it's own RAID array just for realtime editing. In a large shop you'd have a SAN of some kind.
      - alexqgb 16y ago
        Good production practice isn't that different from good practice anywhere; 3-2-1 is baseline. That is to say you keep - at minimum - three copies of everything, two local and one remote.

I just don't understand how there could have only been a single copy of those videos.

Retric 16y ago

Who says he only deleted a single file? It's not hard to delete stuff from online backup systems.

Udo 16y ago
No, I think what trafficlight meant was: how can there be only a single copy of this material? What about the media they actually shot the episodes on? Surely there must be some kind of copy on the cutting room computers? It looks as if they're mainly out to collect damages from the company.
- Retric 16y ago
  The data breach allegedly knocked out 6,480 WER1 electronic files, or 300 gigabytes of data, comprising two years of work from hundreds of contributors globally, including animation artwork and live action video production. Sounds like they hosted everything in the "cloud". Consider what happens when you edit a Google doc, there is no offline backup just whatever Google provides. So sure they are not at zero, but plenty of stuff can and was lost.
  - Udo 16y ago
    That's what they claim, sure. But does it really work like that? It seems to me that there would have to be local copies of those videos, if for no other reason than synching production quality videos to the cloud in realtime is probably unrealistic. Maybe some HNer working in the TV industry can elaborate?
    - trafficlight 16y ago
      From what little video editing I've been involved in, we had source material in 2 or 3 different places, plus multiple edits of said material, plus rough edited timelines, plus the final product. And keeping everything in the cloud would be insane. In our shop every video editing workstation had it's own RAID array just for realtime editing. In a large shop you'd have a SAN of some kind.
    - alexqgb 16y ago
      Good production practice isn't that different from good practice anywhere; 3-2-1 is baseline. That is to say you keep - at minimum - three copies of everything, two local and one remote.