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Ask me if I will volunteer to give apple or google any more information than they already collect and my answer will always be no. I don't care what the reasoni

Ask me if I will volunteer to give apple or google any more information than they already collect and my answer will always be no. I don't care what the reasoning. Germany did it right.

nxpnsv 6y ago
So they’d have to just force it then?
- thetanil 6y ago
  Or do it like Germany, no centralized info store.
  - makomk 6y ago
    The German approach doesn't give your information to a German centralized info store, but apparently it does require agreeing to feed your location data to Google's own databases on Android devices: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/technology/google-covid-tracker-app.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/technology/google-covid-t...
azinman2 6y ago
Germany adopted the Apple/Google framework, which is exactly what an Apple/Google app would use. The whole point of the design is that it’s decentralized and you wouldn’t be giving Apple/Google more information.
- Spearchucker 6y ago
  True. Except that the German app turns on EVERYTHING - LTE, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS. And the carrier gets it all. I had the app installed for all of maybe 2 minutes because it did exactly what it claimed to do, but I'm not giving the carrier even more granular location info. The only thing I leave on when I leave the house is mobile data.
  - usr1106 6y ago
    I'm not in Germany and I don't have compatible phone. But from all I have read the claim about turning on GPS is plain wrong.
  - danijoo 6y ago
    German android user here. This is absolutely wrong. I suspect you are misinterpreting the permission message on Android. The app does not turn anything on. I suggest you to learn how androids permission system works before throwing out wrong accusions.
    - Spearchucker 6y ago
      I stand by my post.
zepto 6y ago
Since the contract tracing api doesn’t give information to Apple or Google, it’s hard to see what relevance this comment has.
- bluedispatcher 6y ago
  The parent comment was suggesting governments should publish the anonymized ids of infected citizens through Apple/Google.

Ask me if I will volunteer to give apple or google any more information than they already collect and my answer will always be no. I don't care what the reasoning. Germany did it right.

nxpnsv 6y ago

So they’d have to just force it then?

thetanil 6y ago
Or do it like Germany, no centralized info store.
- makomk 6y ago
  The German approach doesn't give your information to a German centralized info store, but apparently it does require agreeing to feed your location data to Google's own databases on Android devices: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/technology/google-covid-tracker-app.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/technology/google-covid-t...

azinman2 6y ago

Germany adopted the Apple/Google framework, which is exactly what an Apple/Google app would use. The whole point of the design is that it’s decentralized and you wouldn’t be giving Apple/Google more information.

Spearchucker 6y ago
True. Except that the German app turns on EVERYTHING - LTE, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS. And the carrier gets it all. I had the app installed for all of maybe 2 minutes because it did exactly what it claimed to do, but I'm not giving the carrier even more granular location info. The only thing I leave on when I leave the house is mobile data.
- usr1106 6y ago
  I'm not in Germany and I don't have compatible phone. But from all I have read the claim about turning on GPS is plain wrong.
- danijoo 6y ago
  German android user here. This is absolutely wrong. I suspect you are misinterpreting the permission message on Android. The app does not turn anything on. I suggest you to learn how androids permission system works before throwing out wrong accusions.
  - Spearchucker 6y ago
    I stand by my post.

zepto 6y ago

Since the contract tracing api doesn’t give information to Apple or Google, it’s hard to see what relevance this comment has.

bluedispatcher 6y ago
The parent comment was suggesting governments should publish the anonymized ids of infected citizens through Apple/Google.