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"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy, instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it
by annoyingnoob 6y ago
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy, instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate. Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
-Martin Luther King Jr.
- rasz 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution
- jbay808 6y ago... And? Did you post this in the wrong thread, or do you want to imply something about the French Revolution's relevance to the above quote but can't be bothered to explain your point? The French Revolution began as a bloodbath and ended in Napoleon rampaging across Europe, so it would seem like a case in point. Is that what you meant?
- rasz 6y agoFrench Revolution is a perfect counter example nullifying MLK point. Yes, a lot of violence and chopped heads can in fact establish better future for all.
- pjkundert 6y agoA future where utopia where “the last politician is strangled with the entrails of the last priest”? Let us know how that works out.
- cloverich 6y ago...the French revolution led to Napoleon though, and several more wars after. Did they cause the better future? Was the substantial violence and ethnic cleansing _following_ WW2 part of that future? I am far from an expert on the subject but I've yet to hear the argument you are presenting. Curious to hear a more substantive version of it.
- rasz 6y agoFrench were already war happy without Napoleon. 30 year war, Spain, Netherlands, Austria, then we get to French and Indian War and American Revolution. If anything Napoleonic Wars brought peace and introduced never seen before liberties. Obviously being a Pole makes me strongly biased. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Warsaw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Warsaw
- koheripbal 6y ago> If anything Napoleonic Wars brought peace I can't tell if this is a serious comment or not.
- rasz 6y agoYou'd know if you were Spanish, British or French.
- happytoexplain 6y agoHe was an emotional genius. It's upsetting that I've seen people use anti-violence quotes like this not to stand on their own, but as attacks against protesters in general, or against destructive rioters but excluding any police or reactionary militias.