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The nice thing about this treatment is that testing should be a bit easier. Not really dangerous in a controlled setting, and if you find someone who is early s

by goda90 6y ago

The nice thing about this treatment is that testing should be a bit easier. Not really dangerous in a controlled setting, and if you find someone who is early stages of cancer then if it isn't effective you can switch to a known treatment.

rightbyte 6y ago
A strict diet might weaken you right? Many cancer patient get very thin and I guess you don't want to start the treatment like that so you miss fat reserves.
- vixen99 6y ago
  Depends whether it weakens 'you' or the cancer and which succumbs first! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6938162/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6938162/ Quick take from the abstract: "The vulnerability of cancer cells to nutrient deprivation and their dependency on specific metabolites are emerging hallmarks of cancer. Fasting or fasting-mimicking diets (FMDs) lead to wide alterations in growth factors and in metabolite levels, generating environments that can reduce the capability of cancer cells to adapt and survive and thus improving the effects of cancer therapies. In addition, fasting or FMDs increase resistance to chemotherapy in normal but not cancer cells and promote regeneration in normal tissues, which could help prevent detrimental and potentially life-threatening side effects of treatments. While fasting is hardly tolerated by patients, both animal and clinical studies show that cycles of low-calorie FMDs are feasible and overall safe. "
- elif 6y ago
  I would disagree and make the important distinction that many chemo treatment recipients get very thin. Like saying "I don't have time to take a shower, because my bath takes an hour"
  - nonbel 6y ago
    It's interesting that a side effect of pretty much every treatment for cancer is nausea, weight loss, etc. Almost like reduced nutrient absorption is the main mechanism by which the treatments work.
    - evgen 6y ago
      Since most cancer treatments target fast-replicating cells and the gut is lined with such cells I think you have the arrow of causality backwards in this case.
      - nonbel 6y ago
        Obviously I am saying the standard explanation is the one with the causality backwards.
- deegles 6y ago
  Fasting doesn't have to mean fewer calories. It could mean eating all of your daily calories in a 6 hour window, instead of 3 times per day.

by goda90 6y ago

rightbyte 6y ago

A strict diet might weaken you right? Many cancer patient get very thin and I guess you don't want to start the treatment like that so you miss fat reserves.

vixen99 6y ago
Depends whether it weakens 'you' or the cancer and which succumbs first! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6938162/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6938162/ Quick take from the abstract: "The vulnerability of cancer cells to nutrient deprivation and their dependency on specific metabolites are emerging hallmarks of cancer. Fasting or fasting-mimicking diets (FMDs) lead to wide alterations in growth factors and in metabolite levels, generating environments that can reduce the capability of cancer cells to adapt and survive and thus improving the effects of cancer therapies. In addition, fasting or FMDs increase resistance to chemotherapy in normal but not cancer cells and promote regeneration in normal tissues, which could help prevent detrimental and potentially life-threatening side effects of treatments. While fasting is hardly tolerated by patients, both animal and clinical studies show that cycles of low-calorie FMDs are feasible and overall safe. "
elif 6y ago
I would disagree and make the important distinction that many chemo treatment recipients get very thin. Like saying "I don't have time to take a shower, because my bath takes an hour"
- nonbel 6y ago
  It's interesting that a side effect of pretty much every treatment for cancer is nausea, weight loss, etc. Almost like reduced nutrient absorption is the main mechanism by which the treatments work.
  - evgen 6y ago
    Since most cancer treatments target fast-replicating cells and the gut is lined with such cells I think you have the arrow of causality backwards in this case.
    - nonbel 6y ago
      Obviously I am saying the standard explanation is the one with the causality backwards.
deegles 6y ago
Fasting doesn't have to mean fewer calories. It could mean eating all of your daily calories in a 6 hour window, instead of 3 times per day.