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I partially agree. I think it is definitely an authoritarian show of force, but I believe it is accountable, as the outcome of the arrested should be public rec

I partially agree. I think it is definitely an authoritarian show of force, but I believe it is accountable, as the outcome of the arrested should be public record. And as an accountable, authoritarian show of force, they are working as intended. I would be open to debating whether those methods of arrest should be used: I lean toward yes, and don't see them as anything similar to brownshirts or secret police, as these federal police merely arrest on probably cause, rather than affect punishment on false pretenses. I would also be open to arguments about whether the federal police should conduct operations outside the grounds of their property, which I have heard others say has happened. I lean toward yes.

KozmoNau7 6y ago
That is putting a lot of faith into an administration that has shown countless times to not care about fairness, to have acted in severely bad faith against civilians and to have courted and outright worked together with far-right movements. It has also aggressively fired anyone who has dared question these policies from the inside. These are all signs of an authoritarian power grab. In addition to that, you make a number of arguments with absolutely no evidence to back them up. You claim that the arrests are public record and completely on the level. There is no evidence of that. You claim that they arrest on valid probable cause. There is no evidence of that. When people in military uniforms with no markings roll up in unmarked rental vans and refuse to identify themselves before taking away random protestors, that is a deliberate scare tactic and fear campaign. As protestors, you do not know whether you are being taken by federal officers or by a far-right militia. You do not know where you will be taken or when (or if) you will be released again. This is completely deliberate, and designed to instill a fear of protesting government injustice. There is a very good point to be made that this is a gross violation of the first amendment.

KozmoNau7 6y ago

That is putting a lot of faith into an administration that has shown countless times to not care about fairness, to have acted in severely bad faith against civilians and to have courted and outright worked together with far-right movements. It has also aggressively fired anyone who has dared question these policies from the inside. These are all signs of an authoritarian power grab. In addition to that, you make a number of arguments with absolutely no evidence to back them up. You claim that the arrests are public record and completely on the level. There is no evidence of that. You claim that they arrest on valid probable cause. There is no evidence of that. When people in military uniforms with no markings roll up in unmarked rental vans and refuse to identify themselves before taking away random protestors, that is a deliberate scare tactic and fear campaign. As protestors, you do not know whether you are being taken by federal officers or by a far-right militia. You do not know where you will be taken or when (or if) you will be released again. This is completely deliberate, and designed to instill a fear of protesting government injustice. There is a very good point to be made that this is a gross violation of the first amendment.