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>The NYT footage clearly depicts uniformed individuals without identification detaining protesters. The people making the arrests are wearing identifying marki
by throwaway-4512 6y ago
>The NYT footage clearly depicts uniformed individuals without identification detaining protesters.
The people making the arrests are wearing identifying marking as well as their badge number. Look at the man's shoulder where he is wearing a Border Patrol insignia with his badge number above it. You can see this in the original footage of the car based arrest.
https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/103/7d8/36268f7317b3d89f028b34d88ac4725d66-portland-troops.rhorizontal.w700.jpg https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/103/7d8/36268f7317b3d89f028b...
> The "local authorities" include the mayor of Portland and the governor of Oregon. Regardless of how one feels about the protests or their legitimacy, any proponent of state's rights should be very alarmed by the situation. They are elected officials representing their constituents, and in their own state their rights and desires should be respected.
I think of states as laboratories of our democratic republic where localities are allowed to craft approaches and responses that best fit their needs. This is a good thing.
It is incorrect though to defend states rights when the local government has allowed federal property to be attacked night after night without attempting to quell it. Federal police was not dispatched until the federal courthouse in Portland was breached by "protestors". If the state and local government refuse to defend federal property, what do you suggest that the federal government should do? And what does that say about those governments?
- chx 6y agoAre you guys paid to do this shit? Russian trolls? GOP propaganda? What is going on here? I already answered https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23948395 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23948395 and I am completely bewildered by the barrage of trumpist propaganda here. Because that photo is from July 4 https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-federal-police-are-kidnapping-and-brutalizing-protesters-in-portland/ https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-federal-police-are-kidn... And the unmarked agents doing arrests was on July 15 https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/ https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unm... and > Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off. There is a video on Twitter, I can look it up if you want, where a woman as she is being kidnapped by these people is screaming "who are you" and she gets no answer.
- bendbro 6y agoPersonally, I am just tired of holding my tongue and I love to argue when I feel something is untrue. I don't like Trump.