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Is the effect exactly the same or somewhat different?

luckylion 6y ago
Very close / the same in my experience. I've never had the exact same effect even from two doses of LSD from the same sheet, much less different producers, but 1p-lsd was just fine and felt the same to me. I bought a bit before it was put on the controlled substances list in my country. A good demonstration that legal LSD doesn't end the world: it was legal, it was LSD, the world didn't end!
- bookofjoe 6y ago
  >I've never had the exact same effect even from two doses of LSD from the same sheet... As a retired neurosurgical anesthesiologist (38 years) who has never taken LSD or any psychedelic/psychoactive substance, I found your observation very thought provoking. More likely than not, the LSD on each unit on a given sheet is chemically identical. Therefore, the only variables are 1) the amounts in each dose, and 2) the substrate on which the drug will act (i.e., your brain at a given instant is — on the whole — the same, but functionally totally different from second to second as pathways activate and connect). I would therefore hypothesize that, more likely than not, most if not all individuals who have a strong response to a given dose of LSD will have different responses to repeated doses from the same sheet. I'm hoping people who've taken LSD will school me.
  - Strom 6y ago
    I think it's important to differentiate between the effect of LSD and the experience of the subject. The effect is always the same (for the same dose) but the experience is different. The differences in experience come because LSD is just a modifier on your perception and thoughts. Thus you can only have the same experience if you repeat the same sensory inputs and thoughts - which is pretty much impossible.
  - BTCOG 6y ago
    LSD has quite a bit of subjective experience change based solely on mood, set, and settings. Although beyond that, everyone's reality is not the same as the next guy. Aside from that, repeated dosing of anything at all can be different from dose to dose based on body chemistry, tolerance, hormone balance, and dopamine/adrenaline type of responses. Mood plays a large factor in this as well. Tylenol does not work the same way at the same dose in each and every person, either.
  - rv-de 6y ago
    Get yourself some Monero and order LSD, already, for Christ's sake ...
Nursie 6y ago
It was thought to be a pro-drug for LSD, but I'm not sure that's been proven. AL-LAD has also been spotted in recent years.
- gallexme 6y ago
  AL and ETH n a bunch more (mipla ...) are all very different to lsd, they only show chemical similarities, but so do melatonin and dmt :)
  - Nursie 6y ago
    Having tried AL and the original, I'm not sure I could spot any sort of difference. It was years apart and it's all very subjective though.
    - gallexme 6y ago
      I tried ETH AL and 1p half a month apart , they all been a lot of different AL lad 150ug was happy ish almost no visuals, very slight mind changes ETH lad 75ug played most with my mind visuals were weak but very distinct to lsd, touch was amazing,but was extremely easy to get afraid of smth(thought loops etc) 1p lsd 125ug was just like lsd with maybe more vasoconstriction atleast hands felt colder n hikes were more exhausting than lsd
      - GoodRxEngineer 6y ago
        That's wild that AL didn't give you visuals, it was the one that gave me the most visuals by far Guess it affects people differently
ShiftyOdin 6y ago
I find it extremely close. I believe that it metabolizes into LSD in your system. If I'm not mistaken.

Very close / the same in my experience. I've never had the exact same effect even from two doses of LSD from the same sheet, much less different producers, but 1p-lsd was just fine and felt the same to me. I bought a bit before it was put on the controlled substances list in my country. A good demonstration that legal LSD doesn't end the world: it was legal, it was LSD, the world didn't end!

bookofjoe 6y ago
>I've never had the exact same effect even from two doses of LSD from the same sheet... As a retired neurosurgical anesthesiologist (38 years) who has never taken LSD or any psychedelic/psychoactive substance, I found your observation very thought provoking. More likely than not, the LSD on each unit on a given sheet is chemically identical. Therefore, the only variables are 1) the amounts in each dose, and 2) the substrate on which the drug will act (i.e., your brain at a given instant is — on the whole — the same, but functionally totally different from second to second as pathways activate and connect). I would therefore hypothesize that, more likely than not, most if not all individuals who have a strong response to a given dose of LSD will have different responses to repeated doses from the same sheet. I'm hoping people who've taken LSD will school me.
- Strom 6y ago
  I think it's important to differentiate between the effect of LSD and the experience of the subject. The effect is always the same (for the same dose) but the experience is different. The differences in experience come because LSD is just a modifier on your perception and thoughts. Thus you can only have the same experience if you repeat the same sensory inputs and thoughts - which is pretty much impossible.
- BTCOG 6y ago
  LSD has quite a bit of subjective experience change based solely on mood, set, and settings. Although beyond that, everyone's reality is not the same as the next guy. Aside from that, repeated dosing of anything at all can be different from dose to dose based on body chemistry, tolerance, hormone balance, and dopamine/adrenaline type of responses. Mood plays a large factor in this as well. Tylenol does not work the same way at the same dose in each and every person, either.
- rv-de 6y ago
  Get yourself some Monero and order LSD, already, for Christ's sake ...

Nursie 6y ago

It was thought to be a pro-drug for LSD, but I'm not sure that's been proven. AL-LAD has also been spotted in recent years.

gallexme 6y ago
AL and ETH n a bunch more (mipla ...) are all very different to lsd, they only show chemical similarities, but so do melatonin and dmt :)
- Nursie 6y ago
  Having tried AL and the original, I'm not sure I could spot any sort of difference. It was years apart and it's all very subjective though.
  - gallexme 6y ago
    I tried ETH AL and 1p half a month apart , they all been a lot of different AL lad 150ug was happy ish almost no visuals, very slight mind changes ETH lad 75ug played most with my mind visuals were weak but very distinct to lsd, touch was amazing,but was extremely easy to get afraid of smth(thought loops etc) 1p lsd 125ug was just like lsd with maybe more vasoconstriction atleast hands felt colder n hikes were more exhausting than lsd
    - GoodRxEngineer 6y ago
      That's wild that AL didn't give you visuals, it was the one that gave me the most visuals by far Guess it affects people differently

ShiftyOdin 6y ago

I find it extremely close. I believe that it metabolizes into LSD in your system. If I'm not mistaken.