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It's not about power dynamics, it's about liberty. And ultimately, liberty is about autonomy. Having the freedom to do what you choose if you so need to. Free a

It's not about power dynamics, it's about liberty. And ultimately, liberty is about autonomy. Having the freedom to do what you choose if you so need to. Free as in freedom right? Stallman was always talking about liberty.

rexpop 6y ago
> It's not about power dynamics, it's about liberty. There's no liberty without the power to preserve it.
- dimitrios1 6y ago
  Couldn't think of a better argument for the second amendment myself.
  - hrhrhrd 6y ago
    That came out of left field.
  - xmprt 6y ago
    There's tyranny in parts of the US yet most of the second amendment lovers support what the Federal Government is doing (eg. in Portland or DC).
    - Shared404 6y ago
      > yet most of the second amendment lovers Clearly those are not actual second amendment lovers, they are deadly toy lovers, and therefor profess to love the second amendment. There are those who actually believe in the ideals of the second amendment, the question is how many of them A) Live in Portland/DC B) Are willing to put their lives on the line for this. I'd like to think that if I lived there I would be.
Shared404 6y ago
Why not both? Yes, it is to protect liberty to do what you will with the software/source. It is also to make sure that the developers of said software will be in a much more difficult situation when it comes to abusing the users of their software. Stallman talks about this as well.
- saurik 6y ago
  Aren't those even the same thing? For users to have liberty implies a specific power dynamic between them and developers.
  - Shared404 6y ago
    Indeed. I believe you've phrased it much better then I did.
microcolonel 6y ago
Need speech for your guns, guns for your speech; just the way it is. Not that everything is a power dynamic, looking at life that way kills all your friends and family really quickly.
smichel17 6y ago
Potayto, potahto. As an example outside of computing, slavery — the antithesis of liberty/autonomy — is the manifestation of an extremely skewed power dynamic.
pabs3 6y ago
Liberty for whom? Most of humanity is not economically privileged enough or digitally literate enough to utilise the available digital liberty, let alone able to know that it exists.

rexpop 6y ago

> It's not about power dynamics, it's about liberty. There's no liberty without the power to preserve it.

dimitrios1 6y ago
Couldn't think of a better argument for the second amendment myself.
- hrhrhrd 6y ago
  That came out of left field.
- xmprt 6y ago
  There's tyranny in parts of the US yet most of the second amendment lovers support what the Federal Government is doing (eg. in Portland or DC).
  - Shared404 6y ago
    > yet most of the second amendment lovers Clearly those are not actual second amendment lovers, they are deadly toy lovers, and therefor profess to love the second amendment. There are those who actually believe in the ideals of the second amendment, the question is how many of them A) Live in Portland/DC B) Are willing to put their lives on the line for this. I'd like to think that if I lived there I would be.

Shared404 6y ago

Why not both? Yes, it is to protect liberty to do what you will with the software/source. It is also to make sure that the developers of said software will be in a much more difficult situation when it comes to abusing the users of their software. Stallman talks about this as well.

saurik 6y ago
Aren't those even the same thing? For users to have liberty implies a specific power dynamic between them and developers.
- Shared404 6y ago
  Indeed. I believe you've phrased it much better then I did.

microcolonel 6y ago

Need speech for your guns, guns for your speech; just the way it is. Not that everything is a power dynamic, looking at life that way kills all your friends and family really quickly.

smichel17 6y ago

Potayto, potahto. As an example outside of computing, slavery — the antithesis of liberty/autonomy — is the manifestation of an extremely skewed power dynamic.

pabs3 6y ago

Liberty for whom? Most of humanity is not economically privileged enough or digitally literate enough to utilise the available digital liberty, let alone able to know that it exists.