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https://www.propublica.org/article/voting-rights-by-state-map https://www.propublica.org/article/voting-rights-by-state-ma... I suppose you haven't been lookin

https://www.propublica.org/article/voting-rights-by-state-map https://www.propublica.org/article/voting-rights-by-state-ma... I suppose you haven't been looking.

yostrovs 6y ago
Have you looked? Does asking for an ID to prove that you are a legal voter too much now? Did you know that everywhere in the world, except the U.S., you must prove that you are who you are before getting the ballot? There are some exceptions like the purple finger in Iraq, but those are extraordinary and are not examples of proper anything anyways. Again, I ask, how are people kept from voting? If showing ID is an example, I'm sorry, that's just silly.
- thebooktocome 6y ago
  Article linked has many, many examples unrelated to voter ID. I also reject your framing. Unlike some other countries, the United States has a constitutional prohibition on poll taxes, called the 24th Amendment. Regardless of what sophistry SCOTUS might hold, it is empirically self-evident that requiring only forms of ID that cost money is equivalent in outcome to having a poll tax.
  - yostrovs 6y ago
    This is just so ridiculous that "silly" is the only word to describe a simple requirement to prove that you have the right to vote as a step on the 24th amendment. It can only be demanded by people that want to rig elections.
    - thebooktocome 6y ago
      Article linked has many, many examples unrelated to voter ID.
- vkou 6y ago
  > Did you know that everywhere in the world, except the U.S., you must prove that you are who you are before getting the ballot? False. In Canada, a voter with ID can vouch for one other voter, whose name and address are recorded. Also, you'd have a better point if voter ID laws were not combined with a well-documented campaign to make it more difficult for POC to get IDs. This is classic voter suppression - install a byzantine set of rules that unwanted demographics will have a harder time navigating. Also, I may point out that disenfranchising eligible voters happens to be voter fraud - carried out by the state.
  - yostrovs 6y ago
    It's harder for darker people to get id than lighter people? How so?
    - vkou 6y ago
      Fees, limited operating hours when you can get IDs, limited operating locations, limited utility of the ID (if you can't afford a car, paying money to get a driver's license is a bit of a harder sell, while offices issuing non-DL IDs may be hours away from you...)

https://www.propublica.org/article/voting-rights-by-state-map https://www.propublica.org/article/voting-rights-by-state-ma... I suppose you haven't been looking.

yostrovs 6y ago

Have you looked? Does asking for an ID to prove that you are a legal voter too much now? Did you know that everywhere in the world, except the U.S., you must prove that you are who you are before getting the ballot? There are some exceptions like the purple finger in Iraq, but those are extraordinary and are not examples of proper anything anyways. Again, I ask, how are people kept from voting? If showing ID is an example, I'm sorry, that's just silly.

thebooktocome 6y ago
Article linked has many, many examples unrelated to voter ID. I also reject your framing. Unlike some other countries, the United States has a constitutional prohibition on poll taxes, called the 24th Amendment. Regardless of what sophistry SCOTUS might hold, it is empirically self-evident that requiring only forms of ID that cost money is equivalent in outcome to having a poll tax.
- yostrovs 6y ago
  This is just so ridiculous that "silly" is the only word to describe a simple requirement to prove that you have the right to vote as a step on the 24th amendment. It can only be demanded by people that want to rig elections.
  - thebooktocome 6y ago
    Article linked has many, many examples unrelated to voter ID.
vkou 6y ago
> Did you know that everywhere in the world, except the U.S., you must prove that you are who you are before getting the ballot? False. In Canada, a voter with ID can vouch for one other voter, whose name and address are recorded. Also, you'd have a better point if voter ID laws were not combined with a well-documented campaign to make it more difficult for POC to get IDs. This is classic voter suppression - install a byzantine set of rules that unwanted demographics will have a harder time navigating. Also, I may point out that disenfranchising eligible voters happens to be voter fraud - carried out by the state.
- yostrovs 6y ago
  It's harder for darker people to get id than lighter people? How so?
  - vkou 6y ago
    Fees, limited operating hours when you can get IDs, limited operating locations, limited utility of the ID (if you can't afford a car, paying money to get a driver's license is a bit of a harder sell, while offices issuing non-DL IDs may be hours away from you...)