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> An app for sending millions of emails as cheaply as possible. Mail for Good uses AWS Simple Email Service to send bulk emails at $0.10 per 1000 emails. > Mai

> An app for sending millions of emails as cheaply as possible. Mail for Good uses AWS Simple Email Service to send bulk emails at $0.10 per 1000 emails. > Mail for Good is fast and memory efficient, currently sending over 100 emails per second on a 1gb Digital Ocean VPS. > We've used Mail for Good to deliver newsletters to hundreds of thousands of campers per week. ... Good? YMMV, but personally, I'm not a fan of spam. Never will be.

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ewidar 6y ago
I agree, I don't understand the naming here. When clicking the link I thought this was going to be another way to approach emails which better respects... something. This was quite disapointing.
- macspoofing 6y ago
  >I don't understand the naming here. You mean "Mail for Good"? I think it's because they are focusing on non-profits.
growt 6y ago
Not every bulk email is spam. Look at your inbox, I bet there are at least some newsletters, transactional mails or mailing lists in there that you signed up for.
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  There are zero newsletters, large-scale transactional emails or mailing lists in my inbox. Are you suggesting that I am missing out on something awesome, or maybe that's how e-mail should've been in the first place before the marketing industry laid its slimy hands on it?
- cmroanirgo 6y ago
  I've contacted PayPal asking to be unsubscribed from having a monthly email about my zero account balance with them. They said they couldn't unsubscribe me. I don't have any details other than 1 credit card with them... So I'll never have a "balance", so their email is spam to me. I never signed up for correspondence from PayPal about this. That they refuse to fix it is weird. I get exactly zero bulk email in my inbox... Except for this PayPal nonsense.
riffic 6y ago
>> deliver newsletters to hundreds of thousands of campers per week > I'm not a fan of spam. Never will be This isn't spam. It's a newsletter subscription people opt into by joining their website as a user. Users can opt-out of this specific newsletter in their FreeCodeCamp settings page and be fine and dandy afterwards. Spam is something else entirely.
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  Newsletters are the modern spam. "Spam" as we used to know it is actually a solved problem nowadays on major e-mail providers with good spam filters. Regarding newsletters, the majority of those are opt-out (as opposed to opt-in) and the opt-out process is intentionally convoluted ("untick this checkbox if you would prefer not to subscribe to our newsletter"), so as far as I'm concerned it's indeed spam.
  - riffic 6y ago
    Since we're talking specifically about the FreeCodeCamp newsletter, may I point you out to their privacy terms you agree to when you sign up (this is essentially a clickwrap, or "take it or leave it" contract): https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/privacy-policy/ https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/privacy-policy/ > We'll ask you for your email address so you can use it to sign into freeCodeCamp, and so we can send you announcements and helpful programming-related links. Essentially, this is an "opt-in" process because you are opting to create your account and you agree with the site policies. Granted, I'm in no way a legal professional and I could be wrong about everything I said here. Corrections are welcome.
    - Nextgrid 6y ago
      This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. A FreeCodeCamp account presumably offers more functionality beyond just the newsletter, and the majority of people would sign up for that functionality and not the newsletter. Yet, there is no way to opt-out directly, and you have to go through extra steps to do so after the fact. This is also in breach of the GDPR which mandates that consent for non-essential data processing (marketing communications fall into that) should be opt-in (so pre-ticked checkboxes are already forbidden) and freely given (so there is no penalty for declining, you can’t refuse to open an account for them if they decline consent).

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ewidar 6y ago

I agree, I don't understand the naming here. When clicking the link I thought this was going to be another way to approach emails which better respects... something. This was quite disapointing.

macspoofing 6y ago
>I don't understand the naming here. You mean "Mail for Good"? I think it's because they are focusing on non-profits.

growt 6y ago

Not every bulk email is spam. Look at your inbox, I bet there are at least some newsletters, transactional mails or mailing lists in there that you signed up for.

Nextgrid 6y ago
There are zero newsletters, large-scale transactional emails or mailing lists in my inbox. Are you suggesting that I am missing out on something awesome, or maybe that's how e-mail should've been in the first place before the marketing industry laid its slimy hands on it?
cmroanirgo 6y ago
I've contacted PayPal asking to be unsubscribed from having a monthly email about my zero account balance with them. They said they couldn't unsubscribe me. I don't have any details other than 1 credit card with them... So I'll never have a "balance", so their email is spam to me. I never signed up for correspondence from PayPal about this. That they refuse to fix it is weird. I get exactly zero bulk email in my inbox... Except for this PayPal nonsense.

riffic 6y ago

>> deliver newsletters to hundreds of thousands of campers per week > I'm not a fan of spam. Never will be This isn't spam. It's a newsletter subscription people opt into by joining their website as a user. Users can opt-out of this specific newsletter in their FreeCodeCamp settings page and be fine and dandy afterwards. Spam is something else entirely.

Nextgrid 6y ago
Newsletters are the modern spam. "Spam" as we used to know it is actually a solved problem nowadays on major e-mail providers with good spam filters. Regarding newsletters, the majority of those are opt-out (as opposed to opt-in) and the opt-out process is intentionally convoluted ("untick this checkbox if you would prefer not to subscribe to our newsletter"), so as far as I'm concerned it's indeed spam.
- riffic 6y ago
  Since we're talking specifically about the FreeCodeCamp newsletter, may I point you out to their privacy terms you agree to when you sign up (this is essentially a clickwrap, or "take it or leave it" contract): https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/privacy-policy/ https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/privacy-policy/ > We'll ask you for your email address so you can use it to sign into freeCodeCamp, and so we can send you announcements and helpful programming-related links. Essentially, this is an "opt-in" process because you are opting to create your account and you agree with the site policies. Granted, I'm in no way a legal professional and I could be wrong about everything I said here. Corrections are welcome.
  - Nextgrid 6y ago
    This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. A FreeCodeCamp account presumably offers more functionality beyond just the newsletter, and the majority of people would sign up for that functionality and not the newsletter. Yet, there is no way to opt-out directly, and you have to go through extra steps to do so after the fact. This is also in breach of the GDPR which mandates that consent for non-essential data processing (marketing communications fall into that) should be opt-in (so pre-ticked checkboxes are already forbidden) and freely given (so there is no penalty for declining, you can’t refuse to open an account for them if they decline consent).