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In the famous case of the individual placed into an unmarked van by unidentified federal agents, there was no arrest, and no access to a lawyer (and no trial in
by fastaguy88 6y ago
In the famous case of the individual placed into an unmarked van by unidentified federal agents, there was no arrest, and no access to a lawyer (and no trial in court). There was only an abduction, which was over after some number of hours.
If the agents were arresting people, giving them access to lawyers, and taking them to court, the issues would be very different.
- tux1968 6y agoPolice are given the latitude, with some limitations, to arrest people legally even without charge. Importantly, they must release uncharged persons within a certain timeframe which seems to have been respected in this case. If ultimately there is no charge and the person is released, they can obviously contact a lawyer and have access to the courts. We can debate all this as a matter of public policy and law. What we should not do is sacrifice our credibility by pretending that people are being kidnapped and "disappeared" or comparing this to what is going on in HK.
- jessaustin 6y agoYes it's very important that CIA-sponsored protests be differentiated from non-CIA-sponsored protests! One is good and the other is bad!