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In the United States, much like in similar authoritarian countries, the police appears to be able to arrest journalists without probable cause. Happened live wh
by contrarianmop 6y ago
In the United States, much like in similar authoritarian countries, the police appears to be able to arrest journalists without probable cause. Happened live where journalists reporting live have been arrested and / or beaten. A sad state of affairs.
- stronglikedan 6y ago> the police appears to be able to arrest journalists without probable cause. Happened live I haven't seen any stories/vids where they arrested journalists without probable cause in the US recently. Would you happen to have any links to share?
- joshribakoff 6y agohttps://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/us-ambassador-responds-to-assault-of-australian-journalists-by-police-outside-white-house-20200602-p54ywn.html https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/us-ambassador-res... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/29/black-cnn-reporter-arrested-on-air-minneapolis-protests-george-floyd-killing https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/29/black-cnn-re... https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1284526898991828992?s=20 https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1284526898991828992...
- stronglikedan 6y agoThanks. I know the CNN crew were definitely arrested for cause, but I hadn't heard about the Australian crew. Although, I'll have to do more research on that one, because the link doesn't really give much context as to why they were confronted in the first place.
- jessaustin 6y agoWhat was the cause? They were taking pictures too disruptively? I can't believe I've been forced to defend CNN...
- kyleee 6y agoThey were told to move out of that specific area
- jessaustin 6y agoSo what? Unlawful orders are unlawful. The reporter and camera operator were not obstructing anything. They were in a position to observe, which is what the public wants them to do. Police will disagree, but police have lied so much that no one believes them anymore.
- kyleee 6y agoWhy is it assumed the order is unlawful?
- jessaustin 6y agoI didn't assume anything. I told you why it was unlawful, in the comment directly above.
- bilbo0s 6y agoI can't believe I've been forced to defend CNN. I can't believe I'm agreeing with your defense of CNN. We really are living in Bizarro World right now. Some people in the US have gone way too far down the authoritarian path.
- elipsey 6y agoThey are also macing and beating journos solely for lawfully filming cops. Makes it kind of hard to do the job even they don't arrest you. See topic article. While you're at it: https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=G_caX_qVB_HI0PEPvuOmkA0&q=police+assault+journalists&oq=police+assault+journalists https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=G_caX_qVB_HI0PEPv...
- pensatoio 6y agoYeah, but these aren’t police, they’re feds who are deployed within the scope of codified law. This reads like judicial activism, nothing more.
- xtian 6y agoTheir only identification is a little patch which reads “POLICE”. You’re saying that’s fraudulent?
- jungturk 6y agoThe judge is noting that there are competing concerns at play here (as is often the case) and clarifying for participants the priority of those concerns. Specifically, the statutes that authorize these policing actions are inferior to the constitutional guarantees in this case given the situation on the ground.
- SauciestGNU 6y agoI think you've got it wrong. The rights as defined in the Bill of Rights apply more strictly to the federal government than they do to the states. In fact, it took the Fourteenth Amendment and over a hundred years of judicial interpretation to "incorporate" a subset of the Bill of Rights to apply to state governments.