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I'm not really sure how this is going to be enforced if the federal agents cannot be identified?

stronglikedan 6y ago
They can be identified by their badges, just like any other law enforcement officer. They all wear badges with unique badge numbers.
- guerrilla 6y ago
  You missed the part where they have been removing and covering their badges fairly consistently.
  - UI_at_80x24 6y ago
    I'd like to see this codified into law and practice: As soon as you cover/hide a badge/identification you are no longer acting as law-enforcement and are deemed a terrorist inciting fear & harm on the public.
    - jessaustin 6y ago
      I saw an interview with the mayor a couple of days ago. He ended by throwing a Molotov cocktail that the interviewer completely ignored: "It would be really unfortunate if the irregular behavior of these federal agents put them in harm's way." (My memory is not great so this quote may be a bit more explicit than the original?) In general, if an unidentified group of armed and camouflaged ruffians pours out of unmarked vans to menace our neighborhood, we should shoot them.
      - non-entity 6y ago
        I've heard stuff like this a lot, but just dont believe it. The people who are more likely to be armed arent being targeted. Plus shooting at federal officers is likely to be a death sentence, both literally and in regards to sympathy / support for yourself and beliefs.
        jessaustin 6y ago
        I would never shoot an unarmed person; that would be murder. Gun possession is also not a reason for anyone to be shot. However, by all reports these agents are menacing people with their weapons, bundling people into unmarked vans, etc. Those behaviors threaten lives, and responsible gun owners will intervene to stop them.
        jadell 6y ago
        If they are not wearing badges and identification of which agency they are operating under the authority of, then the laws should be that they are not legally operating as federal officers. That's the point. I'm allowed (in many jurisdictions) to defend myself with deadly force if necessary against an assailant. Without properly identifying themselves as federal agents, they could be any random person who bought camo and tactical gear at any random gun shop or military surplus store. Federal agents should be required to clearly identify themselves as such.
IAmEveryone 6y ago
It’s civil law, not criminal. It adds an extra zero to the settlement a one-eyed journalist will get from their lawsuit against DHS about 26 months from now.

They can be identified by their badges, just like any other law enforcement officer. They all wear badges with unique badge numbers.

guerrilla 6y ago
You missed the part where they have been removing and covering their badges fairly consistently.
- UI_at_80x24 6y ago
  I'd like to see this codified into law and practice: As soon as you cover/hide a badge/identification you are no longer acting as law-enforcement and are deemed a terrorist inciting fear & harm on the public.
  - jessaustin 6y ago
    I saw an interview with the mayor a couple of days ago. He ended by throwing a Molotov cocktail that the interviewer completely ignored: "It would be really unfortunate if the irregular behavior of these federal agents put them in harm's way." (My memory is not great so this quote may be a bit more explicit than the original?) In general, if an unidentified group of armed and camouflaged ruffians pours out of unmarked vans to menace our neighborhood, we should shoot them.
    - non-entity 6y ago
      I've heard stuff like this a lot, but just dont believe it. The people who are more likely to be armed arent being targeted. Plus shooting at federal officers is likely to be a death sentence, both literally and in regards to sympathy / support for yourself and beliefs.
      - jessaustin 6y ago
        I would never shoot an unarmed person; that would be murder. Gun possession is also not a reason for anyone to be shot. However, by all reports these agents are menacing people with their weapons, bundling people into unmarked vans, etc. Those behaviors threaten lives, and responsible gun owners will intervene to stop them.
      - jadell 6y ago
        If they are not wearing badges and identification of which agency they are operating under the authority of, then the laws should be that they are not legally operating as federal officers. That's the point. I'm allowed (in many jurisdictions) to defend myself with deadly force if necessary against an assailant. Without properly identifying themselves as federal agents, they could be any random person who bought camo and tactical gear at any random gun shop or military surplus store. Federal agents should be required to clearly identify themselves as such.

IAmEveryone 6y ago

It’s civil law, not criminal. It adds an extra zero to the settlement a one-eyed journalist will get from their lawsuit against DHS about 26 months from now.