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Two things stick out for me: - leftover food. Really? This is really shitty behaviour; I am all for reuse, recycle; but this is neither the time nor the moment

Two things stick out for me: - leftover food. Really? This is really shitty behaviour; I am all for reuse, recycle; but this is neither the time nor the moment Independent of that: - I do not know much about US-Universities, so I checked. Duke is US Top 10, and A&T is not in the Times ranking since it is >600. So to me calling A&T "and a damn good one." is just delusional. Maybe it is a 'not so bad one', but I think things (quality of the University) can only improve if one is willing to see the truth. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Cthulhu_ 6y ago
So they deserve leftovers and lip service as opposed to help inspire the students to do better and raise the school to a higher "rank"? I don't get the ranking system either; it's education, it should be uniform, everyone should get the same opportunities and education and their diplomas should be "worth" the same, instead of it being a pissing contest where the higher ranked ones are only accessible to the rich and those in the "in" group. The US is lacking social mobility in part because of this.
- bluedevil2k 6y ago
  > it's education, it should be uniform, everyone should get the same opportunities and education and their diplomas should be "worth" the same But that’s delusional, right? Of course diplomas won’t be the same because colleges cluster kids of similar intelligence and motivation. As has been pointed out on this page repeatedly, the kids at Duke are smarter and more motivated than at a typical school, so as a result, the diploma is worth more. And to pretend that Duke is only accessible to rich whites and Asians is a fallacy. I had lots of friends from poor families who had lots of aid and minority friends - the Duke campus is far more diverse than the country in general.
- fastball 6y ago
  Education should not be uniform because students are not uniform. Some people are just better students than others.
mattm 6y ago
You might want to have a look at how "top" schools are calculated https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-... Financial related: Faculty resources 20% "Expert opinion" 20% Financial resources 10% Alumni giving 5% Academic related: Outcomes 35% Student excellence 10%
- andi999 6y ago
  I agree that these rankings can be misleading. Do you know any better comparison of Duke and A&T? Like GRE scores of students having completed an undergraduate degree at that university? I dont know if such data is available.
  - kyawzazaw 6y ago
    If you are not going to grad school, you probably won't take GRE. As we all know, Masters are rarely funded in the US which in a way means that less well-off students will attempt to pursue one.

Cthulhu_ 6y ago

So they deserve leftovers and lip service as opposed to help inspire the students to do better and raise the school to a higher "rank"? I don't get the ranking system either; it's education, it should be uniform, everyone should get the same opportunities and education and their diplomas should be "worth" the same, instead of it being a pissing contest where the higher ranked ones are only accessible to the rich and those in the "in" group. The US is lacking social mobility in part because of this.

bluedevil2k 6y ago
> it's education, it should be uniform, everyone should get the same opportunities and education and their diplomas should be "worth" the same But that’s delusional, right? Of course diplomas won’t be the same because colleges cluster kids of similar intelligence and motivation. As has been pointed out on this page repeatedly, the kids at Duke are smarter and more motivated than at a typical school, so as a result, the diploma is worth more. And to pretend that Duke is only accessible to rich whites and Asians is a fallacy. I had lots of friends from poor families who had lots of aid and minority friends - the Duke campus is far more diverse than the country in general.
fastball 6y ago
Education should not be uniform because students are not uniform. Some people are just better students than others.

mattm 6y ago

You might want to have a look at how "top" schools are calculated https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-... Financial related: Faculty resources 20% "Expert opinion" 20% Financial resources 10% Alumni giving 5% Academic related: Outcomes 35% Student excellence 10%

andi999 6y ago
I agree that these rankings can be misleading. Do you know any better comparison of Duke and A&T? Like GRE scores of students having completed an undergraduate degree at that university? I dont know if such data is available.
- kyawzazaw 6y ago
  If you are not going to grad school, you probably won't take GRE. As we all know, Masters are rarely funded in the US which in a way means that less well-off students will attempt to pursue one.