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~4-5 stories is totally sufficient to be "dense" compared to most of the US. Cities in the US sprawl absurdly flat. Consider that Paris is one of the densest ci

~4-5 stories is totally sufficient to be "dense" compared to most of the US. Cities in the US sprawl absurdly flat. Consider that Paris is one of the densest cities in the world, and famously has almost no tall buildings.

corty 6y ago
Paris also has famously tiny, cramped and frankly unlivable appartments. Has had for ages. The three musketeers even contained references to it... If Paris is a model for the world, I don't want this world.
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dgellow 6y ago
By curiosity I checked some numbers to compare. Paris density is just crazy! When compared, Berlin (mentioned by cameldrv) really has a low density for the huge capital it is, at around ~3.9k persons/km². London seems to have around 5.5k, New York around 10.2k, while Paris is at a crazy 20.7k! Numbers from https://versus.com/en/berlin-vs-london-vs-new-york-vs-paris/population-density https://versus.com/en/berlin-vs-london-vs-new-york-vs-paris/....
- dmurray 6y ago
  It's a bit exaggerated because Paris proper is only a small part of the urban region. It's more appropriate to compare Paris to Manhattan. Both house around 2 million people at 20k people/km², and both are in sprawling metropolitan areas of 10-20 million depending where you stop counting.
  - dodobirdlord 6y ago
    Yes, but Paris proper is notable for achieving that density with only two tall buildings, both non-residential. Edit: And a considerable amount of land given over to parks, museums, churches, and other non-residential spaces.
- jurip 6y ago
  As dmurray commented there's differences in what is counted. Another difference is that Paris proper has relatively small parks, whereas Berlin has several huge ones as well as lakes. So yeah, Paris is dense, but if you compare block by block the differences are smaller.
  - looki 6y ago
    Even the (by far) most dense borough of Berlin is only at 14,373/km²[1], though. That's considerably lower than almost all of the Parisian boroughs[2]. Even the whole city's average is 20,000/km². From the point of view of most American cities with some obvious exceptions, the difference is probably indeed not that noticeable though. [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verwaltungsgliederung_Berlins https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verwaltungsgliederung_Berlins [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrondissements_of_Paris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrondissements_of_Paris

corty 6y ago

Paris also has famously tiny, cramped and frankly unlivable appartments. Has had for ages. The three musketeers even contained references to it... If Paris is a model for the world, I don't want this world.

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dgellow 6y ago

By curiosity I checked some numbers to compare. Paris density is just crazy! When compared, Berlin (mentioned by cameldrv) really has a low density for the huge capital it is, at around ~3.9k persons/km². London seems to have around 5.5k, New York around 10.2k, while Paris is at a crazy 20.7k! Numbers from https://versus.com/en/berlin-vs-london-vs-new-york-vs-paris/population-density https://versus.com/en/berlin-vs-london-vs-new-york-vs-paris/....

dmurray 6y ago
It's a bit exaggerated because Paris proper is only a small part of the urban region. It's more appropriate to compare Paris to Manhattan. Both house around 2 million people at 20k people/km², and both are in sprawling metropolitan areas of 10-20 million depending where you stop counting.
- dodobirdlord 6y ago
  Yes, but Paris proper is notable for achieving that density with only two tall buildings, both non-residential. Edit: And a considerable amount of land given over to parks, museums, churches, and other non-residential spaces.
jurip 6y ago
As dmurray commented there's differences in what is counted. Another difference is that Paris proper has relatively small parks, whereas Berlin has several huge ones as well as lakes. So yeah, Paris is dense, but if you compare block by block the differences are smaller.
- looki 6y ago
  Even the (by far) most dense borough of Berlin is only at 14,373/km²[1], though. That's considerably lower than almost all of the Parisian boroughs[2]. Even the whole city's average is 20,000/km². From the point of view of most American cities with some obvious exceptions, the difference is probably indeed not that noticeable though. [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verwaltungsgliederung_Berlins https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verwaltungsgliederung_Berlins [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrondissements_of_Paris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrondissements_of_Paris