4 ms·
That's the current story - where ARM is independent. If a competitor buys it and decide to not invest as much in ARM or keep things for themselves that's where
by blinkingled 6y ago
That's the current story - where ARM is independent. If a competitor buys it and decide to not invest as much in ARM or keep things for themselves that's where this discussion plays off. I was saying it won't matter much for Apple but on the other hand Apple buying them would be a much worse outcome for the industry as a whole.
- klelatti 6y agoI'm reasomably sure that Apple does care about the ISA that will soon power 100% (to a reasonable approximation) of its products. My (less than fully clear) point was that there is a strong relationship there and that it's two way. Sure, Apple has escape routes if things go wrong but it's very very unlikely they will be needed.
- pankajdoharey 6y agoSo What Stops Apple from hiring the ARM Team and design the next generation of big.LITTLE independent of ARM, without actually purchasing ARM the company?
- klelatti 6y agoIf reports are correct they did hire some of the Imagination GPU design team. So they probably could but whilst the relationship is good the best of all worlds is a strong ARM team plus a strong team in-house.
- pankajdoharey 6y agoActually Apple benefits if the ARM Core team isn't very good, the rest of the industry would suffer if Mali GPU's dont get upgrades. Already they are behind iPhones, a poor team at ARM Ensures competition doesn't catchup. But all this might change should NVIDIA buys it and adds their own GPUS to the SOC.
- klelatti 6y agoLots of existing GPU alternatives already - including Nvidia (Tegra) so can't see this as a game changer.
- pankajdoharey 6y agoNvidia Tegra is a rent seeking expensive chip. Nvidia has a habit of stopping people from using certain chips through EULA. None of the car manufacturers are using Nvidia Tegra in their autonomous drives for this reason. Even Tesla which started out with Tegra stopped using it.
- pankajdoharey 6y agoI think if someone anyone who buys a 32+ Billion dollar company would want to get returns from it, so surely they won't stop investing. The problem really is if it is someone like NVIDIA then they have this rent seeking behaviour. Which almost everyone is trying to run away from. For instance In the cloud NVIDIA shuns the usage of its commodity GPU's through the use of EULA and force you to buy there expensive and overpriced Cloud GPU solution. This kind of behaviour effectively puts NVIDIA in the category of Ransomware. So I am only concerned that Nvidia doesn't buy it. Anyone else is fine.
- wahern 6y ago> Anyone else is fine. Even Qualcomm?
- pankajdoharey 6y agoWell Yeah forgot about them, Qualcomm too has this rent seeking behaviour with their Modems where they ask for a share of the profits from the phones. Maybe someone from the industry who doesn't rent seek.