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The “Space Force” has nothing to do with militarization of space, for starters. Its conception was a rearranging and centralization of command, not an expansion

The “Space Force” has nothing to do with militarization of space, for starters. Its conception was a rearranging and centralization of command, not an expansion in capability.

simlevesque 6y ago
Their website is literally https://www.spaceforce.mil/ https://www.spaceforce.mil/
chillwaves 6y ago
The domain name begs to differ.
Someone1234 6y ago
Their "About Us" page literally starts with: > The U.S. Space Force (USSF) is a new branch of the Armed Forces. And goes on to say: > USSF responsibilities include developing military space professionals, acquiring military space systems, maturing the military doctrine for space power, and organizing space forces to present to our Combatant Commands. Their core mission is to develop "space power" to "present to our Combatant Commands." And we're meant to believe that Armed Forces that are developing space "Combatants" for "space power" aren't the "militarization of space?"
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- dx87 6y ago
  The fact that you have to make up the term "Space Combatants" shows that you don't know what you're talking about. Combatant Commands are the parts of the military actively involved in combat. Even if the Space Force only ran GPS satellites for the Army, they'd still be providing capabilities to combatant commands.
  - Someone1234 6y ago
    > The fact that you have to make up the term "Space Combatants" shows that you don't know what you're talking about. I'd point to you to HN's comment guidelines[0]. Attacking another poster instead of their argument is against them. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- ardy42 6y ago
  > Their core mission is to develop "space power" to "present to our Combatant Commands." And we're meant to believe that Armed Forces that are developing space "Combatants" for "space power" aren't the "militarization of space?" Yes: military use != militarization. Let's consider hypothetical: you quoted this: >> The U.S. Space Force (USSF) is a new branch of the Armed Forces.... USSF responsibilities include developing military space professionals, acquiring military space systems, maturing the military doctrine for space power, and organizing space forces to present to our Combatant Commands. Let's invent the "US Logistics Force", a new hypothetical branch of the US Military: > The U.S. Logistics Force (USLF) is a new branch of the Armed Forces.... USLF responsibilities include developing military logistics professionals, acquiring military logistics systems, maturing the military doctrine for logistics power, and organizing logistics forces to present to our Combatant Commands. Would the existence of such a force be a militarization of transport links? Not necessarily. It could just be akin to a civilian shipping and logistics company where the drivers wear military fatigues and sometimes drive unusual 8-wheeled heavy lift trucks [1] to strange destinations. The USSF isn't militarizing space because it's not stationing weapons up there, and the kind of stuff it does put up in space, for the most part, are the kinds of things civilian organizations have also put up there (communications, sensor, and navigation satellites). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Expanded_Mobility_Tactical_Truck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Expanded_Mobility_Tactic...
kickopotomus 6y ago
The mission as stated on Space Force website: > The U.S. Space Force is a military service that organizes, trains, and equips space forces in order to protect U.S. and allied interests in space and to provide space capabilities to the joint force. USSF responsibilities will include developing military space professionals, acquiring military space systems, maturing the military doctrine for space power, and organizing space forces to present to our Combatant Commands.

The “Space Force” has nothing to do with militarization of space, for starters. Its conception was a rearranging and centralization of command, not an expansion in capability.

simlevesque 6y ago

Their website is literally https://www.spaceforce.mil/ https://www.spaceforce.mil/

chillwaves 6y ago

The domain name begs to differ.

Someone1234 6y ago

Their "About Us" page literally starts with: > The U.S. Space Force (USSF) is a new branch of the Armed Forces. And goes on to say: > USSF responsibilities include developing military space professionals, acquiring military space systems, maturing the military doctrine for space power, and organizing space forces to present to our Combatant Commands. Their core mission is to develop "space power" to "present to our Combatant Commands." And we're meant to believe that Armed Forces that are developing space "Combatants" for "space power" aren't the "militarization of space?"

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dx87 6y ago
The fact that you have to make up the term "Space Combatants" shows that you don't know what you're talking about. Combatant Commands are the parts of the military actively involved in combat. Even if the Space Force only ran GPS satellites for the Army, they'd still be providing capabilities to combatant commands.
- Someone1234 6y ago
  > The fact that you have to make up the term "Space Combatants" shows that you don't know what you're talking about. I'd point to you to HN's comment guidelines[0]. Attacking another poster instead of their argument is against them. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
ardy42 6y ago
> Their core mission is to develop "space power" to "present to our Combatant Commands." And we're meant to believe that Armed Forces that are developing space "Combatants" for "space power" aren't the "militarization of space?" Yes: military use != militarization. Let's consider hypothetical: you quoted this: >> The U.S. Space Force (USSF) is a new branch of the Armed Forces.... USSF responsibilities include developing military space professionals, acquiring military space systems, maturing the military doctrine for space power, and organizing space forces to present to our Combatant Commands. Let's invent the "US Logistics Force", a new hypothetical branch of the US Military: > The U.S. Logistics Force (USLF) is a new branch of the Armed Forces.... USLF responsibilities include developing military logistics professionals, acquiring military logistics systems, maturing the military doctrine for logistics power, and organizing logistics forces to present to our Combatant Commands. Would the existence of such a force be a militarization of transport links? Not necessarily. It could just be akin to a civilian shipping and logistics company where the drivers wear military fatigues and sometimes drive unusual 8-wheeled heavy lift trucks [1] to strange destinations. The USSF isn't militarizing space because it's not stationing weapons up there, and the kind of stuff it does put up in space, for the most part, are the kinds of things civilian organizations have also put up there (communications, sensor, and navigation satellites). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Expanded_Mobility_Tactical_Truck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Expanded_Mobility_Tactic...

kickopotomus 6y ago

The mission as stated on Space Force website: > The U.S. Space Force is a military service that organizes, trains, and equips space forces in order to protect U.S. and allied interests in space and to provide space capabilities to the joint force. USSF responsibilities will include developing military space professionals, acquiring military space systems, maturing the military doctrine for space power, and organizing space forces to present to our Combatant Commands.