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It has a transactional guarantee of "maybe". I would _definitely_ not rely on this functionality for anything other than non-critical or time sensitive casual n

It has a transactional guarantee of "maybe". I would _definitely_ not rely on this functionality for anything other than non-critical or time sensitive casual navigation on roadways. When I'm out in the bush, I need my device to be up and working locally. It seems that stuff designed in SV just assumes the lifestyle of 100% connectivity is universal.

toomuchtodo 6y ago
Do you have any recommendations for digital mapping solutions that “just work” without connectivity?
- exabrial 6y ago
  Trailforks is power hungry but is great if you're on-trail. If you're off trail, hilariously Garmin Explore I think is pretty good, you can download Topo and USGS maps, but logging in isn't working right now :) so look elsewhere
- aeries 6y ago
  maps.me has saved me many times in places with zero connectivity. I can also import my planned adventures as kml files to be sure I'm on track.
- abkfenris 6y ago
  Gaia GPS is fantastic. You can mix and match layers, and specify what bounds you want to download for a trip. Right now I've got 3 GB stored locally, some of that for the usual locations that I wander out of connectivity, and some for a trip next week. Garmin (formerly Delorme) Earthmate despite their other issues is great for state or province wide vector maps. Not as great for fine navigation and tracking (as it's designed to be paired with and control an InReach), but good for point of interest exploration.
  - macintux 6y ago
    I love Gaia on my iPhone and iPad, but I’ve had real problems with map layers not displaying lately. MapBox Streets and Gaia Streets are both hosed and I can’t figure out why.
- bloodorange 6y ago
  Typical satnav devices work fine without internet connectivity. Of course, such a device won't work if it can't connect to satellites providing positioning data but I think that was not what you had in mind when you said "connectivity".
- brigandish 6y ago
  Forgive the potential facetiousness of my reply because I know it's not exactly what you're asking for, but if you know where you'll be then save the images somehow. Knowing how flakey Apple Maps is without connectivity, if it's important, then I'll take screenshots of the route before I leave, for the same reason I'll print out important slides of a presentation because even a lo-fi plan B is better than total failure. Are online maps really that much better than a paper map? The only real improvement is the same as that of mp3 over carrying a walkman and bunch of tapes. There's not much beyond that, for all the hype. Like so many things (Amp/SPA websites; social media; 24 hour rolling news…) they seem to me to not really improvements over what we had, because someone somewhere tried to lock the customer in. Maybe that's just misanthropic luddite me.
- petre 6y ago
  Here Maps for vehicle nav. If you download the maps of course. OSMAnd and Windy Maps w/ on device maps for outdoor. Here is also used on Audi's satnav I think. The voice is the same and the missing roads are the same.
- pmontra 6y ago
  OSMAnd. https://osmand.net/ https://osmand.net/ I installed it on my old phone (and the new one and my tablet .) I placed it on a handlebar mount and I'm mapping and navigating my vacation.

toomuchtodo 6y ago

Do you have any recommendations for digital mapping solutions that “just work” without connectivity?

exabrial 6y ago
Trailforks is power hungry but is great if you're on-trail. If you're off trail, hilariously Garmin Explore I think is pretty good, you can download Topo and USGS maps, but logging in isn't working right now :) so look elsewhere
aeries 6y ago
maps.me has saved me many times in places with zero connectivity. I can also import my planned adventures as kml files to be sure I'm on track.
abkfenris 6y ago
Gaia GPS is fantastic. You can mix and match layers, and specify what bounds you want to download for a trip. Right now I've got 3 GB stored locally, some of that for the usual locations that I wander out of connectivity, and some for a trip next week. Garmin (formerly Delorme) Earthmate despite their other issues is great for state or province wide vector maps. Not as great for fine navigation and tracking (as it's designed to be paired with and control an InReach), but good for point of interest exploration.
- macintux 6y ago
  I love Gaia on my iPhone and iPad, but I’ve had real problems with map layers not displaying lately. MapBox Streets and Gaia Streets are both hosed and I can’t figure out why.
bloodorange 6y ago
Typical satnav devices work fine without internet connectivity. Of course, such a device won't work if it can't connect to satellites providing positioning data but I think that was not what you had in mind when you said "connectivity".
brigandish 6y ago
Forgive the potential facetiousness of my reply because I know it's not exactly what you're asking for, but if you know where you'll be then save the images somehow. Knowing how flakey Apple Maps is without connectivity, if it's important, then I'll take screenshots of the route before I leave, for the same reason I'll print out important slides of a presentation because even a lo-fi plan B is better than total failure. Are online maps really that much better than a paper map? The only real improvement is the same as that of mp3 over carrying a walkman and bunch of tapes. There's not much beyond that, for all the hype. Like so many things (Amp/SPA websites; social media; 24 hour rolling news…) they seem to me to not really improvements over what we had, because someone somewhere tried to lock the customer in. Maybe that's just misanthropic luddite me.
petre 6y ago
Here Maps for vehicle nav. If you download the maps of course. OSMAnd and Windy Maps w/ on device maps for outdoor. Here is also used on Audi's satnav I think. The voice is the same and the missing roads are the same.
pmontra 6y ago
OSMAnd. https://osmand.net/ https://osmand.net/ I installed it on my old phone (and the new one and my tablet .) I placed it on a handlebar mount and I'm mapping and navigating my vacation.