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Ooor instead of responding only to people's emotions and trying to control them, you could respond to the content of their post and admit they have a point. We
by kerkeslager 6y ago
Ooor instead of responding only to people's emotions and trying to control them, you could respond to the content of their post and admit they have a point. We all have choices.
Saccharine positivity is ruining HN. In the past few days I've seen HN posts that:
1. Said a company's behavior only looks immoral, but it's actually not their fault, because they're just following incentives.
2. Said volunteerism isn't needed right now because lots of people are out of work.
3. Complained about a long-form article not containing science, because they only read the first few paragraphs of the article.
The first is a reprehensible position, the second is harmfully ignorant, and the third is willfully ignorant. But all they had to do to get upvotes is say these horrible things in a nice tone. Responses which called a spade a spade got downvoted and/or deleted entirely.
This isn't even "being kind". It's not kind to screw people over because you're following incentives. It's not kind to encourage people not to volunteer during a time when the need for volunteerism is at a high. HN is optimizing for a shallow veneer of being kind over actual kindness.
I've considered just leaving HN in the past few weeks, but decided to stick around and try to change things. But at this point, getting downvoted or even banned doesn't feel like much of a loss to me. That's not to say you should care if I leave--you should care that your forum is becoming a place where people pat each other on the back for innovating, whether or not they actually innovate or their "innovations" are uninformed or harmful.
And sure, this did generate some interesting conversation, but the most interesting thing to me is The Range Planet[1] link, which could have been the original submission.
[1] https://therangeplanet.proboards.com https://therangeplanet.proboards.com
- yesenadam 6y ago> Saccharine positivity is ruining HN. Hehe that made me laugh out loud. I've not heard that before. Has that claim been made before on HN? (Links to comments welcome, thanks.)
- kerkeslager 6y agoI've made the claim before, in different words, but to be honest I think the post you're responding to is the clearest summary I've personally written. My thoughts on the subject are a work in progress, and I'm not aware of anyone else saying this. I'd be happy to hear if others think the same thing.
- matsemann 6y ago> you could respond to the content of their post Not so sure what your rant has to do about my post, really.
- kerkeslager 6y agoThe target audience for my post seems pretty sure what it has to do with your post. I'll be happy to clarify if you're actually asking for clarification, but it seems like you're making a statement rather than asking a question.