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> If you plan to migrate your customers to IPv6 then you are a lunatic. According to https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-a

> If you plan to migrate your customers to IPv6 then you are a lunatic. According to https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-..., IPv6 adoption in the US is above 42%. Was that all done by lunatics?

goalieca 6y ago
I would not be surprised if the breakdown of those users was near 100% for mobile users and less for broadband.
- em-bee 6y ago
  IoT should be the primary adopter of IPv6. those devices don't need to be able to access every server on the internet, and they only run into problems if they connect to a wifi that doesn't support IPv6 if you disagree, i'd appreciate if you could explain why...
  - goalieca 6y ago
    The address space of IPv6 can certainly make things like sensor nets ubiquitous. 5G will certainly drive ipv6 more i think.
    - halbritt 6y ago
      I'm familiar with at least one use case. The largest company that builds the NICs for smart meters has its own custom wireless network technology, but on top of that runs IPv6 so that it can communicate with millions of devices.
  - avianlyric 6y ago
    You're not wrong, but this: > they only run into problems if they connect to a wifi that doesn't support IPv6 is like 99% of the problems IPv6 devices encounter.
    - em-bee 6y ago
      thanks. i didn't realize it would be that bad. at least it's a solveable problem, because it's in the customers sphere of influence, whereas getting all websites i am interested in onto IPv6 is not.
      - emiliobumachar 6y ago
        Now I'm confused. Excuse me if I paraphrase your dialogue to illustrate my confusion: em-bee: IPV6 IoT only run into problems if X avianlyric: X is like 99% of the problems IPv6 devices encounter. em-bee: thanks. i didn't realize it would be that bad. What new information did avianlyric bring? Was that not a re-statement of what came before?
        em-bee 6y ago
        the 99% :-) only running into problems if X implies that X is a small problem. but 99% points out that X is a big problem.
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barbegal 6y ago
By migrate I think the OP meant take away their IPv4 address. IPv6 adoption may be at 42% but unless it is at 99.999% you will have a lot of issues when not allocating an IPv4 address.
- bluGill 6y ago
  It doesn't have to be that high. Tell a small business that in exchange for small percentage of their customers going elsewhere they can sell their IPv4 address for $ and some will take it.
- Dagger2 6y ago
  Not necessarily. I have no v4 on my desktop and I'm not hitting a lot of issues. It only becomes an issue if you don't implement some form of backwards compatibility. I occasionally find websites that are broken and don't load, but that only happens rarely and it's not exactly a problem that's exclusive to v6.

goalieca 6y ago

I would not be surprised if the breakdown of those users was near 100% for mobile users and less for broadband.

em-bee 6y ago
IoT should be the primary adopter of IPv6. those devices don't need to be able to access every server on the internet, and they only run into problems if they connect to a wifi that doesn't support IPv6 if you disagree, i'd appreciate if you could explain why...
- goalieca 6y ago
  The address space of IPv6 can certainly make things like sensor nets ubiquitous. 5G will certainly drive ipv6 more i think.
  - halbritt 6y ago
    I'm familiar with at least one use case. The largest company that builds the NICs for smart meters has its own custom wireless network technology, but on top of that runs IPv6 so that it can communicate with millions of devices.
- avianlyric 6y ago
  You're not wrong, but this: > they only run into problems if they connect to a wifi that doesn't support IPv6 is like 99% of the problems IPv6 devices encounter.
  - em-bee 6y ago
    thanks. i didn't realize it would be that bad. at least it's a solveable problem, because it's in the customers sphere of influence, whereas getting all websites i am interested in onto IPv6 is not.
    - emiliobumachar 6y ago
      Now I'm confused. Excuse me if I paraphrase your dialogue to illustrate my confusion: em-bee: IPV6 IoT only run into problems if X avianlyric: X is like 99% of the problems IPv6 devices encounter. em-bee: thanks. i didn't realize it would be that bad. What new information did avianlyric bring? Was that not a re-statement of what came before?
      - em-bee 6y ago
        the 99% :-) only running into problems if X implies that X is a small problem. but 99% points out that X is a big problem.
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barbegal 6y ago

By migrate I think the OP meant take away their IPv4 address. IPv6 adoption may be at 42% but unless it is at 99.999% you will have a lot of issues when not allocating an IPv4 address.

bluGill 6y ago
It doesn't have to be that high. Tell a small business that in exchange for small percentage of their customers going elsewhere they can sell their IPv4 address for $ and some will take it.
Dagger2 6y ago
Not necessarily. I have no v4 on my desktop and I'm not hitting a lot of issues. It only becomes an issue if you don't implement some form of backwards compatibility. I occasionally find websites that are broken and don't load, but that only happens rarely and it's not exactly a problem that's exclusive to v6.