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The language on the landing page suggests that every time you click Try Now a new image is generated. > Click the button below for an AI-generated abstract pai

The language on the landing page suggests that every time you click Try Now a new image is generated. > Click the button below for an AI-generated abstract painting. Built for artists, developers, and hobbyists. Really though there is a gallery of around 10,000 pngs on a Wordpress site. Fake it 'til you make it!

glenstein 6y ago
I would say that the part you quoted suggests it's not generated on the spot. However,the sentence in the huge font right before the one you quoted could be reasonably interpreted to suggest it's generated on the spot. And as you mention it just looks like a gallery of images that was already generated. It's still cool, but I'm a bit irked at the misleading framing. Gwern's website showed us amazing text generation from GPT-3, that had all been generated beforehand. We didn't have to be tricked into thinking it was generated on the spot to appreciate it, so I don't see why that's needed here.
- phalangion 6y ago
  The fact that the link says “Try Now” instead of “next image” or something like that is implying that you are using the AI generation when you click the button.
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  - glenstein 6y ago
    Agreed. I think that the button gives the implication. I was focusing on the quoted part, but you're right.
    - wimpypistol 6y ago
      Completely fair assessment. Thanks for the input. I look up to Gwern quite heavily, so seeing myself referenced in the same sentence is nice - cheers.
seesawtron 6y ago
That is a good insight which is not so obvious. The author should have written a white-paper for more credibility. But I would not be surprised if the actual generation of a new painting takes less than a second as generative networks can be run quite fast to generate new image. I assume the author had the challenge of creating this new "generated" content on-the-fly in browser from the trained model and hence just loads from already generated thousands of images for convenience of the user-interaction. But yes it is a little misguided approach for Karma.
growt 6y ago
The fine-print at the bottom explains it: "On a Tesla T4, it takes on average 0.173 seconds per novel generation." I don't think you can expect someone to pay for T4 instance 24/7 for some hobby project.
- glenstein 6y ago
  >I don't think you can expect someone to pay for T4 instance 24/7 for some hobby project. That's a needlessly uncharitable interpretation of what is happening here. The site is giving the misleading impression that these images are generated on the spot, and then walking it back in the fine print. It's a valid criticism, and lecturing people about the economics is not a charitable engagement with that criticism.
  - pdabbadabba 6y ago
    That seems backwards. I think GP's point that the critics on HN are themselves being uncharitable towards the site (or maybe just missed the explanation) by acting like it's a nefarious bait and switch, rather than considering the possibility that the author of the site is just trying to save on computing costs. He or she's not lecturing anyone about economics. In fact, if we want to talk about charity, I think that accusation is about the least charitable thing I've seen so far on this thread!
    - sofal 6y ago
      The title literally says "generate abstract paintings in one click" and it is not doing that. I clicked on it expecting it to generate abstract paintings in one click, and now my disappointment is uncharitable?
      - andai 6y ago
        What if they stockpiled enough images so that everyone was guaranteed a fresh image? Would there be any difference then?
HenryBemis 6y ago
Heh.. absolutely true: https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4428.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4428.... https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4429.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4429.... https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4430.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4430.... and so on..

glenstein 6y ago

I would say that the part you quoted suggests it's not generated on the spot. However,the sentence in the huge font right before the one you quoted could be reasonably interpreted to suggest it's generated on the spot. And as you mention it just looks like a gallery of images that was already generated. It's still cool, but I'm a bit irked at the misleading framing. Gwern's website showed us amazing text generation from GPT-3, that had all been generated beforehand. We didn't have to be tricked into thinking it was generated on the spot to appreciate it, so I don't see why that's needed here.

phalangion 6y ago
The fact that the link says “Try Now” instead of “next image” or something like that is implying that you are using the AI generation when you click the button.
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- glenstein 6y ago
  Agreed. I think that the button gives the implication. I was focusing on the quoted part, but you're right.
  - wimpypistol 6y ago
    Completely fair assessment. Thanks for the input. I look up to Gwern quite heavily, so seeing myself referenced in the same sentence is nice - cheers.

seesawtron 6y ago

That is a good insight which is not so obvious. The author should have written a white-paper for more credibility. But I would not be surprised if the actual generation of a new painting takes less than a second as generative networks can be run quite fast to generate new image. I assume the author had the challenge of creating this new "generated" content on-the-fly in browser from the trained model and hence just loads from already generated thousands of images for convenience of the user-interaction. But yes it is a little misguided approach for Karma.

growt 6y ago

The fine-print at the bottom explains it: "On a Tesla T4, it takes on average 0.173 seconds per novel generation." I don't think you can expect someone to pay for T4 instance 24/7 for some hobby project.

glenstein 6y ago
>I don't think you can expect someone to pay for T4 instance 24/7 for some hobby project. That's a needlessly uncharitable interpretation of what is happening here. The site is giving the misleading impression that these images are generated on the spot, and then walking it back in the fine print. It's a valid criticism, and lecturing people about the economics is not a charitable engagement with that criticism.
- pdabbadabba 6y ago
  That seems backwards. I think GP's point that the critics on HN are themselves being uncharitable towards the site (or maybe just missed the explanation) by acting like it's a nefarious bait and switch, rather than considering the possibility that the author of the site is just trying to save on computing costs. He or she's not lecturing anyone about economics. In fact, if we want to talk about charity, I think that accusation is about the least charitable thing I've seen so far on this thread!
  - sofal 6y ago
    The title literally says "generate abstract paintings in one click" and it is not doing that. I clicked on it expecting it to generate abstract paintings in one click, and now my disappointment is uncharitable?
    - andai 6y ago
      What if they stockpiled enough images so that everyone was guaranteed a fresh image? Would there be any difference then?

HenryBemis 6y ago

Heh.. absolutely true: https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4428.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4428.... https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4429.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4429.... https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4430.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4430.... and so on..