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Why is it so hard to produce a 13" Notebook with a Ryzen 4800U, 32 GB Ram (or better just two Sockets) and two 4k/60hz Outputs? Make one HDMI 2.0 and the other

Why is it so hard to produce a 13" Notebook with a Ryzen 4800U, 32 GB Ram (or better just two Sockets) and two 4k/60hz Outputs? Make one HDMI 2.0 and the other Displayport over Type-C and I'm fine. I'd love to see a USB 3 Type-A Port aswell but that seems like too much to ask nowadays.

sz4kerto 6y ago
Lenovo X13 with Ryzen 4750U + 32 GB RAM + docking station is quite similar.
- MrUnderhill 6y ago
  Looks like it's kicking ass in the benchmarks too: https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-benchmarks-AMD-Ryzen-4000-excels-in-the-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X13-Gen-1.482312.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-benchmarks-AMD-Ryzen-400...
- baybal2 6y ago
  I wonder, would there be somebody brave enough to go for resolder.
  - Roritharr 6y ago
    The CPU? You'd have to buy a second notebook to get the 4800U first... I'd pay money to see Louis Rossmann try though.
    - baybal2 6y ago
      For as long as you can get CPU from scrapers, it shouldn't be a problem.
- boruto 6y ago
  > You can get 32GB of RAM in a 15" form factor, just not in 13". > This is due to the well known engineering limitation that links LCD size to the density of RAM modules that can be supported by a motherboard. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21445497 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21445497 I thought this comment 8 months back was correct. I dont know the limitation nor could find something related.
  - Roritharr 6y ago
    This is simply not true. My current Notebook is a 32GB Ram equipped 13" Toshiba Portegé X-30-D, comes in at nearly 1KG and is available with a quad-core i7-8550U. I'd just like a Ryzen 4800U version of my current machine, even if it means sacrificing Thunderbolt 3. I think i'll have to wait for 5800U to come around and have USB4 though to see that happen. :(
    - Roritharr 6y ago
      Here is a link to a block diagram to show what's possible on Renoir Chipsets: https://www.notebookcheck.com/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/AMD_Renoir_Block_Diagram.jpg https://www.notebookcheck.com/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/...
  - tonyarkles 6y ago
    > I thought this comment 8 months back was correct. I dont know the limitation nor could find something related. >> Semi- >> Autonomous >> Remote >> Cache >> Assignment >> Synchronization >> Monitoring Unfortunately looks like you got trolled. There's definitely no such engineering limitation. It's primarily, I think, a marketing limitation; if you want a beefier machine, they want to push you towards overall higher end equipment.
    - boruto 6y ago
      Looks like it. I read that comment and it stuck in my head.
  - numpad0 6y ago
    Maybe due to space, or could be power constraints. According to little Google Search, DDR4 DRAM consume roughly 1.5W per 4GB(not per module) so 32GB = 12W by itself at least at peak. DDR4 SODIMM 32GB modules are about $150 right now so you can pop one in if you want and if your machine supports it.
  - x87678r 6y ago
    https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X13-amd/p/22TPX13X3A2 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/Thi... click Customize, then choose Ryzen 7, then choose 32GB memory.
x87678r 6y ago
I kinda feel if you really need a lot of resources you can use a cloud server or local physical box. There are lots of workstation laptops spec'd like you want but they're big, heavy and expensive.

sz4kerto 6y ago

Lenovo X13 with Ryzen 4750U + 32 GB RAM + docking station is quite similar.

MrUnderhill 6y ago
Looks like it's kicking ass in the benchmarks too: https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-benchmarks-AMD-Ryzen-4000-excels-in-the-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X13-Gen-1.482312.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-benchmarks-AMD-Ryzen-400...
baybal2 6y ago
I wonder, would there be somebody brave enough to go for resolder.
- Roritharr 6y ago
  The CPU? You'd have to buy a second notebook to get the 4800U first... I'd pay money to see Louis Rossmann try though.
  - baybal2 6y ago
    For as long as you can get CPU from scrapers, it shouldn't be a problem.
boruto 6y ago
> You can get 32GB of RAM in a 15" form factor, just not in 13". > This is due to the well known engineering limitation that links LCD size to the density of RAM modules that can be supported by a motherboard. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21445497 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21445497 I thought this comment 8 months back was correct. I dont know the limitation nor could find something related.
- Roritharr 6y ago
  This is simply not true. My current Notebook is a 32GB Ram equipped 13" Toshiba Portegé X-30-D, comes in at nearly 1KG and is available with a quad-core i7-8550U. I'd just like a Ryzen 4800U version of my current machine, even if it means sacrificing Thunderbolt 3. I think i'll have to wait for 5800U to come around and have USB4 though to see that happen. :(
  - Roritharr 6y ago
    Here is a link to a block diagram to show what's possible on Renoir Chipsets: https://www.notebookcheck.com/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/AMD_Renoir_Block_Diagram.jpg https://www.notebookcheck.com/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/...
- tonyarkles 6y ago
  > I thought this comment 8 months back was correct. I dont know the limitation nor could find something related. >> Semi- >> Autonomous >> Remote >> Cache >> Assignment >> Synchronization >> Monitoring Unfortunately looks like you got trolled. There's definitely no such engineering limitation. It's primarily, I think, a marketing limitation; if you want a beefier machine, they want to push you towards overall higher end equipment.
  - boruto 6y ago
    Looks like it. I read that comment and it stuck in my head.
- numpad0 6y ago
  Maybe due to space, or could be power constraints. According to little Google Search, DDR4 DRAM consume roughly 1.5W per 4GB(not per module) so 32GB = 12W by itself at least at peak. DDR4 SODIMM 32GB modules are about $150 right now so you can pop one in if you want and if your machine supports it.
- x87678r 6y ago
  https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X13-amd/p/22TPX13X3A2 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/Thi... click Customize, then choose Ryzen 7, then choose 32GB memory.

x87678r 6y ago

I kinda feel if you really need a lot of resources you can use a cloud server or local physical box. There are lots of workstation laptops spec'd like you want but they're big, heavy and expensive.