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Judging by the URL of the images themselves these seem to be pre-generated, which makes me think there might have been some human selection process to filter ou

Judging by the URL of the images themselves these seem to be pre-generated, which makes me think there might have been some human selection process to filter out the badly generated ones. Still some really cool looking art in there, though. I'd be perfectly happy hanging some of these up in my apartment.

gsleblanc 6y ago
The first ten images are... interesting.
- swilliamsio 6y ago
  A real life easter egg!
- afberg 6y ago
  I discovered the same thing. I, umm... don't think these were generated by the neural net?
  - leddt 6y ago
    Actually, I'm pretty sure those are generated by a neural net. There are clear artifacts on the images that give it away. Maybe the author experimented with different source material before going for abstract paintings.
synnick 6y ago
The language on the landing page suggests that every time you click Try Now a new image is generated. > Click the button below for an AI-generated abstract painting. Built for artists, developers, and hobbyists. Really though there is a gallery of around 10,000 pngs on a Wordpress site. Fake it 'til you make it!
- glenstein 6y ago
  I would say that the part you quoted suggests it's not generated on the spot. However,the sentence in the huge font right before the one you quoted could be reasonably interpreted to suggest it's generated on the spot. And as you mention it just looks like a gallery of images that was already generated. It's still cool, but I'm a bit irked at the misleading framing. Gwern's website showed us amazing text generation from GPT-3, that had all been generated beforehand. We didn't have to be tricked into thinking it was generated on the spot to appreciate it, so I don't see why that's needed here.
  - phalangion 6y ago
    The fact that the link says “Try Now” instead of “next image” or something like that is implying that you are using the AI generation when you click the button.
    - deleted 6y ago
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    - glenstein 6y ago
      Agreed. I think that the button gives the implication. I was focusing on the quoted part, but you're right.
      - wimpypistol 6y ago
        Completely fair assessment. Thanks for the input. I look up to Gwern quite heavily, so seeing myself referenced in the same sentence is nice - cheers.
- seesawtron 6y ago
  That is a good insight which is not so obvious. The author should have written a white-paper for more credibility. But I would not be surprised if the actual generation of a new painting takes less than a second as generative networks can be run quite fast to generate new image. I assume the author had the challenge of creating this new "generated" content on-the-fly in browser from the trained model and hence just loads from already generated thousands of images for convenience of the user-interaction. But yes it is a little misguided approach for Karma.
- growt 6y ago
  The fine-print at the bottom explains it: "On a Tesla T4, it takes on average 0.173 seconds per novel generation." I don't think you can expect someone to pay for T4 instance 24/7 for some hobby project.
  - glenstein 6y ago
    >I don't think you can expect someone to pay for T4 instance 24/7 for some hobby project. That's a needlessly uncharitable interpretation of what is happening here. The site is giving the misleading impression that these images are generated on the spot, and then walking it back in the fine print. It's a valid criticism, and lecturing people about the economics is not a charitable engagement with that criticism.
    - pdabbadabba 6y ago
      That seems backwards. I think GP's point that the critics on HN are themselves being uncharitable towards the site (or maybe just missed the explanation) by acting like it's a nefarious bait and switch, rather than considering the possibility that the author of the site is just trying to save on computing costs. He or she's not lecturing anyone about economics. In fact, if we want to talk about charity, I think that accusation is about the least charitable thing I've seen so far on this thread!
      - sofal 6y ago
        The title literally says "generate abstract paintings in one click" and it is not doing that. I clicked on it expecting it to generate abstract paintings in one click, and now my disappointment is uncharitable?
        andai 6y ago
        What if they stockpiled enough images so that everyone was guaranteed a fresh image? Would there be any difference then?
- HenryBemis 6y ago
  Heh.. absolutely true: https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4428.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4428.... https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4429.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4429.... https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4430.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4430.... and so on..
edgecrafter 6y ago
The are pre-generated, by chance I got the same image within 10 clicks URL to images is https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/XXXX.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/XXXX....
- jonnelafin 6y ago
  Seems like the author is a fan. https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/1.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/1.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/3.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/3.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4.png
  - dannyw 6y ago
    Likely they used transfer learning on an anime face model.
    - wimpypistol 6y ago
      Close! I used anime to test the basic functionality/UI of the site. Transfer learning was in fact done on the FFHQ512 dataset from Nvidia (I figured the complexity of its features was a little higher, which would lend itself well to abstract textures).
jjk166 6y ago
I got one which was just an anime face (not similar to, an actual professional quality animation) which leads me to believe it's passing through images it trained on (or making extremely minor changes to them).
ninju 6y ago
I don't think there is a filter or the filter is real bad https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/8866.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/8866.... (is there such thing as bad abstract art :-))
- Erwin 6y ago
  Found another example of bad RNG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Klein_Blue#/media/File:IKB_191.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Klein_Blue#/medi...
  - wimpypistol 6y ago
    Beautiful.

gsleblanc 6y ago

The first ten images are... interesting.

swilliamsio 6y ago
A real life easter egg!
afberg 6y ago
I discovered the same thing. I, umm... don't think these were generated by the neural net?
- leddt 6y ago
  Actually, I'm pretty sure those are generated by a neural net. There are clear artifacts on the images that give it away. Maybe the author experimented with different source material before going for abstract paintings.

synnick 6y ago

The language on the landing page suggests that every time you click Try Now a new image is generated. > Click the button below for an AI-generated abstract painting. Built for artists, developers, and hobbyists. Really though there is a gallery of around 10,000 pngs on a Wordpress site. Fake it 'til you make it!

glenstein 6y ago
I would say that the part you quoted suggests it's not generated on the spot. However,the sentence in the huge font right before the one you quoted could be reasonably interpreted to suggest it's generated on the spot. And as you mention it just looks like a gallery of images that was already generated. It's still cool, but I'm a bit irked at the misleading framing. Gwern's website showed us amazing text generation from GPT-3, that had all been generated beforehand. We didn't have to be tricked into thinking it was generated on the spot to appreciate it, so I don't see why that's needed here.
- phalangion 6y ago
  The fact that the link says “Try Now” instead of “next image” or something like that is implying that you are using the AI generation when you click the button.
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
  - glenstein 6y ago
    Agreed. I think that the button gives the implication. I was focusing on the quoted part, but you're right.
    - wimpypistol 6y ago
      Completely fair assessment. Thanks for the input. I look up to Gwern quite heavily, so seeing myself referenced in the same sentence is nice - cheers.
seesawtron 6y ago
That is a good insight which is not so obvious. The author should have written a white-paper for more credibility. But I would not be surprised if the actual generation of a new painting takes less than a second as generative networks can be run quite fast to generate new image. I assume the author had the challenge of creating this new "generated" content on-the-fly in browser from the trained model and hence just loads from already generated thousands of images for convenience of the user-interaction. But yes it is a little misguided approach for Karma.
growt 6y ago
The fine-print at the bottom explains it: "On a Tesla T4, it takes on average 0.173 seconds per novel generation." I don't think you can expect someone to pay for T4 instance 24/7 for some hobby project.
- glenstein 6y ago
  >I don't think you can expect someone to pay for T4 instance 24/7 for some hobby project. That's a needlessly uncharitable interpretation of what is happening here. The site is giving the misleading impression that these images are generated on the spot, and then walking it back in the fine print. It's a valid criticism, and lecturing people about the economics is not a charitable engagement with that criticism.
  - pdabbadabba 6y ago
    That seems backwards. I think GP's point that the critics on HN are themselves being uncharitable towards the site (or maybe just missed the explanation) by acting like it's a nefarious bait and switch, rather than considering the possibility that the author of the site is just trying to save on computing costs. He or she's not lecturing anyone about economics. In fact, if we want to talk about charity, I think that accusation is about the least charitable thing I've seen so far on this thread!
    - sofal 6y ago
      The title literally says "generate abstract paintings in one click" and it is not doing that. I clicked on it expecting it to generate abstract paintings in one click, and now my disappointment is uncharitable?
      - andai 6y ago
        What if they stockpiled enough images so that everyone was guaranteed a fresh image? Would there be any difference then?
HenryBemis 6y ago
Heh.. absolutely true: https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4428.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4428.... https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4429.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4429.... https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4430.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4430.... and so on..

edgecrafter 6y ago

The are pre-generated, by chance I got the same image within 10 clicks URL to images is https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/XXXX.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/XXXX....

jonnelafin 6y ago
Seems like the author is a fan. https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/1.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/1.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/3.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/3.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/4.png
- dannyw 6y ago
  Likely they used transfer learning on an anime face model.
  - wimpypistol 6y ago
    Close! I used anime to test the basic functionality/UI of the site. Transfer learning was in fact done on the FFHQ512 dataset from Nvidia (I figured the complexity of its features was a little higher, which would lend itself well to abstract textures).

jjk166 6y ago

I got one which was just an anime face (not similar to, an actual professional quality animation) which leads me to believe it's passing through images it trained on (or making extremely minor changes to them).

ninju 6y ago

I don't think there is a filter or the filter is real bad https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/8866.png https://1secondpainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/8866.... (is there such thing as bad abstract art :-))

Erwin 6y ago
Found another example of bad RNG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Klein_Blue#/media/File:IKB_191.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Klein_Blue#/medi...
- wimpypistol 6y ago
  Beautiful.