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PHP is a banned language internally Amazon and Amazon subsidiaries, so they will not care. ... why am I getting downvoted for offering direct experience as an

by urda 6y ago

PHP is a banned language internally Amazon and Amazon subsidiaries, so they will not care. ... why am I getting downvoted for offering direct experience as an AMZN engineer? Amazon InfoSec forbids PHP. See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030330

Godel_unicode 6y ago
As it should be be.
bowmessage 6y ago
untrue for client libraries, they would care. https://aws.amazon.com/sdk-for-php/ https://aws.amazon.com/sdk-for-php/
- urda 6y ago
  SDK != Corp Policy You can't use PHP internally at Amazon. Downvotes and ignoring facts do not suddenly make my factual comment "untrue". See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030330
  - bowmessage 6y ago
    Ion != Internal-only Amazon software. Many AWS services use it as an interface language. Many AWS customers use PHP.
  - trevor-e 6y ago
    Now I'm confused, are you saying Amazon uses Hack internally which compiles to PHP? The Hack website doesn't have much info and I'm not familiar with it. There's clearly an Amazon Github repo for an an AWS SDK written in PHP, but you're adamant that Amazon does not use PHP at all. So which is it?
    - bowmessage 6y ago
      They vend an AWS SDK in PHP for their customers, but they never run any internal software on PHP. The AWS SDK in PHP helps generate web requests to Amazon's services, most written in Java.
      - senderista 6y ago
        They ran the internal wiki on PHP while I was there. Don’t know if it’s been upgraded since.
  - User23 6y ago
    Out of curiosity is Mason still a thing?
    - throwawaySlu 6y ago
      Hahaha ... yes. :(
ajkjk 6y ago
That's not really how that works. Just don't make it the only language you know.
- urda 6y ago
  It is absolutely how it works when there is a internal policy against using PHP. That's literally fact. That's literally how it works. Additional resource: See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030330
  - mmcallister 6y ago
    Sure, PHP is against internal policy. But if you take the initiative to open source a client library in PHP and it gets the attention of AWS it absolutely could result in an interview. If you are interviewing and you whiteboard your solution in PHP they won't hold it against you. The language is less important than the concepts. Granted, if the only language you know is PHP that could be a risk in your career. I think that holds true for any developer, though. Source: Used to work and interview at AWS
  - ajkjk 6y ago
    Yeah, it's literally not how it works, writing code in a banned language doesn't prevent you from getting interviews or being taken seriously.
rrdharan 6y ago
You're getting downvoted because one true statement - "PHP is banned for internal use" - does not imply the other - "they will not care". Google also bans PHP but has official PHP client libraries for all its APIs. Both companies care about having and maintaining PHP SDKs so long as their paying customers want to consume their products/APIs using PHP.

by urda 6y ago

Godel_unicode 6y ago

As it should be be.

bowmessage 6y ago

untrue for client libraries, they would care. https://aws.amazon.com/sdk-for-php/ https://aws.amazon.com/sdk-for-php/

urda 6y ago
SDK != Corp Policy You can't use PHP internally at Amazon. Downvotes and ignoring facts do not suddenly make my factual comment "untrue". See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030330
- bowmessage 6y ago
  Ion != Internal-only Amazon software. Many AWS services use it as an interface language. Many AWS customers use PHP.
- trevor-e 6y ago
  Now I'm confused, are you saying Amazon uses Hack internally which compiles to PHP? The Hack website doesn't have much info and I'm not familiar with it. There's clearly an Amazon Github repo for an an AWS SDK written in PHP, but you're adamant that Amazon does not use PHP at all. So which is it?
  - bowmessage 6y ago
    They vend an AWS SDK in PHP for their customers, but they never run any internal software on PHP. The AWS SDK in PHP helps generate web requests to Amazon's services, most written in Java.
    - senderista 6y ago
      They ran the internal wiki on PHP while I was there. Don’t know if it’s been upgraded since.
- User23 6y ago
  Out of curiosity is Mason still a thing?
  - throwawaySlu 6y ago
    Hahaha ... yes. :(

ajkjk 6y ago

That's not really how that works. Just don't make it the only language you know.

urda 6y ago
It is absolutely how it works when there is a internal policy against using PHP. That's literally fact. That's literally how it works. Additional resource: See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030330
- mmcallister 6y ago
  Sure, PHP is against internal policy. But if you take the initiative to open source a client library in PHP and it gets the attention of AWS it absolutely could result in an interview. If you are interviewing and you whiteboard your solution in PHP they won't hold it against you. The language is less important than the concepts. Granted, if the only language you know is PHP that could be a risk in your career. I think that holds true for any developer, though. Source: Used to work and interview at AWS
- ajkjk 6y ago
  Yeah, it's literally not how it works, writing code in a banned language doesn't prevent you from getting interviews or being taken seriously.

rrdharan 6y ago

You're getting downvoted because one true statement - "PHP is banned for internal use" - does not imply the other - "they will not care". Google also bans PHP but has official PHP client libraries for all its APIs. Both companies care about having and maintaining PHP SDKs so long as their paying customers want to consume their products/APIs using PHP.