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Meddling in local enforcement, despite push-back from state and local authorities? What could possible go wrong...

zdragnar 6y ago
Considering that, at least in chicago, the police requested federal assistance, it seems like the pushback is more of a political game played by politicians than the reality on the ground.
- TetOn 6y ago
  The police union requested this. To my knowledge, they don't have any authority whatsoever to call out state national guard or federal troops into a state. Would be as meaningless as me declaring my private property an independent nation state.
  - robotron 6y ago
    Yes, it was the union head in Chicago.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  But the police don't get to make that request. Did the city government (mayor and/or city council) request federal assistance? (I don't know, I'm genuinely asking.)
  - SaltyLemonZest 6y ago
    It's unclear whether the mayor requested it, but she delivered a speech yesterday saying she welcomes it as long as the agents aren't militarized.
    - dragonwriter 6y ago
      > the mayor requested it, but she delivered a speech yesterday saying she welcomes it as long as the agents aren't militarized. The mayor is well aware of the practice being employed, and this is a way of saying it is distinctly unwelcome without minimizing the issues being used as a pretext for it.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > Considering that, at least in chicago, the police requested federal assistance The police union did, but in any case, for very good reasons of federalism, the normal and proper route for such a request for federal intervention in local civil order other than as a result of open rebellion by the State government against the Union is from the Governor of the State (who will consider the need for such a request in light of and assure coordination with any state response available and in use, such as state-level law enforcement, National Guard, etc.), not from the local police command.

Considering that, at least in chicago, the police requested federal assistance, it seems like the pushback is more of a political game played by politicians than the reality on the ground.

TetOn 6y ago
The police union requested this. To my knowledge, they don't have any authority whatsoever to call out state national guard or federal troops into a state. Would be as meaningless as me declaring my private property an independent nation state.
- robotron 6y ago
  Yes, it was the union head in Chicago.
AnimalMuppet 6y ago
But the police don't get to make that request. Did the city government (mayor and/or city council) request federal assistance? (I don't know, I'm genuinely asking.)
- SaltyLemonZest 6y ago
  It's unclear whether the mayor requested it, but she delivered a speech yesterday saying she welcomes it as long as the agents aren't militarized.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > the mayor requested it, but she delivered a speech yesterday saying she welcomes it as long as the agents aren't militarized. The mayor is well aware of the practice being employed, and this is a way of saying it is distinctly unwelcome without minimizing the issues being used as a pretext for it.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> Considering that, at least in chicago, the police requested federal assistance The police union did, but in any case, for very good reasons of federalism, the normal and proper route for such a request for federal intervention in local civil order other than as a result of open rebellion by the State government against the Union is from the Governor of the State (who will consider the need for such a request in light of and assure coordination with any state response available and in use, such as state-level law enforcement, National Guard, etc.), not from the local police command.