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I could see a proven engineer #1 with a track record of startup success maybe landing in the 5–10% range (but getting an under market salary), but otherwise I d
by BrandonM 6y ago
I could see a proven engineer #1 with a track record of startup success maybe landing in the 5–10% range (but getting an under market salary), but otherwise I don't see how a number like that is possible. YC takes 7%, and if the first few hires each get 5–10%, that only leaves ~70% for the founders and subsequent hires. If there are 2 founders, they would end up with 25–30% each, and if there are 3, only 15–20%? The numbers only get worse if they've already raised a funding round in return for 20% of the company.
These numbers look more typical to me: https://www.holloway.com/g/equity-compensation/sections/typical-employee-equity-levels https://www.holloway.com/g/equity-compensation/sections/typi.... The article mentions that hire #1 typically gets 2–3%, and only more when it comes with a low salary.
If you want to do better than that, you'll likely have to be a cofounder, not an employee. I read PG's essays in the early 00s, prior to the creation of YC, and his whole shtick was that ambitious employees can't hope to capture the value of their work, that sharp and hard-working tech folks should fund startups to truly capitalize on their efforts.
- TACIXAT 6y agoYea, I agree on all those points and that is what the company pushed back with. They compared the requested stake with what YC got (and it was 3 founders). I was (and still am) at the point where the salary was less important and if I was going to play that game it would be for a big win. I am not chasing starting or being part of an early stage company so hard now though. After being miserable in my last role (Google) I stepped back and looked at the problems that keep me engaged (R&D). Found a company in that space and am very happy with what I do now (DARPA contracts!). If I ever have a side project that lands then I'd pursue it, but I'm not hunting for ideas like I used to. Just trying to find that happy life groove.