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>if they tell me something will I have to promptly report it according to the terms no, unless you use the SRD to verify the information or vulnerability >If

>if they tell me something will I have to promptly report it according to the terms no, unless you use the SRD to verify the information or vulnerability >If I ever hypothetically "write a jailbreak", will Apple come after me even if I say I didn't use that device for it I imagine that if you sold a jailbreak for $$$$ that Apple would probably take a close look at the telemetry the device is sending. If you're confident in your ability to terminate all telemetry, and keep good opsec, and defend yourself in court, then maybe that avenue would be feasible. It certainly wouldn't be ethical.

saagarjha 6y ago
You're taking this question the wrong way: my scenario isn't "I want to trick Apple", it's "will Apple believe me even if I am being honest" and "even if Apple thinks I am being honest will they hold it over my head anyways as a way to control what I disclose".
- Jonnax 6y ago
  Don't do stupid things then. If you want to interact with anyone making jailbreaks, don't do it. If you think you're going to develop a jailbreak, don't join the program. They have better lawyers than you can afford. And if you're sued for breach of contract, can you afford it?
- jentist_retol 6y ago
  Sorry, I'm a security engineer by trade. >even if I say I didn't use that device is a huge difference from >even if I didn't use that device for us. So you an see why I'm a little touchy. If your intentions are good, even if you're doing all the right things, you'd be playing with fire. To be honest, the people they hand out SRDs to probably have an excellent working relationship with apple already, anyways - toeing the line would probably preclude you from having an SRD or getting a second year access.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    I used those words to emphasize that there is really no way for Apple to know I was telling the truth, so I could say anything–fully truthfully–and they could just turn around and claim that they don't believe me. I guess I can see how you'd end up thinking that, but yeah having this kind of restriction that is hard to actually prove/depends on what Apple believes would generally preclude a lot of people from being in the program.

saagarjha 6y ago

You're taking this question the wrong way: my scenario isn't "I want to trick Apple", it's "will Apple believe me even if I am being honest" and "even if Apple thinks I am being honest will they hold it over my head anyways as a way to control what I disclose".

Jonnax 6y ago
Don't do stupid things then. If you want to interact with anyone making jailbreaks, don't do it. If you think you're going to develop a jailbreak, don't join the program. They have better lawyers than you can afford. And if you're sued for breach of contract, can you afford it?
jentist_retol 6y ago
Sorry, I'm a security engineer by trade. >even if I say I didn't use that device is a huge difference from >even if I didn't use that device for us. So you an see why I'm a little touchy. If your intentions are good, even if you're doing all the right things, you'd be playing with fire. To be honest, the people they hand out SRDs to probably have an excellent working relationship with apple already, anyways - toeing the line would probably preclude you from having an SRD or getting a second year access.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  I used those words to emphasize that there is really no way for Apple to know I was telling the truth, so I could say anything–fully truthfully–and they could just turn around and claim that they don't believe me. I guess I can see how you'd end up thinking that, but yeah having this kind of restriction that is hard to actually prove/depends on what Apple believes would generally preclude a lot of people from being in the program.