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New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor
- throwaway72220 6y agoI have never heard of Slimbook and most of what I can find on Google is in Spanish. Are they any good? Do they design the laptops or are they rebranded like System76's Clevo made laptops?
- tabasko 6y agoSomeone at Phoronix[1] forums suspected it to be made by TongFang. Seems to be same laptop which Tuxedo[3] is also selling. [1] https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1195427-tuxedo-computers-launches-a-linux-laptop-with-ryzen-7-4800h-ryzen-5-4600h/page2 https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoron... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/hunyv6/my_mechrevo_code01_tongfang_pf5nu1g_review/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/hunyv6/my_mechr... [3] https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/Linux-Hardware/Linux-Notebooks/15-16-inch/TUXEDO-Book-Pulse-15-Gen1.tuxedo#!#h4-configurator https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/Linux-Hardware/Linux-Note...
- baybal2 6y agoAt the moment, Qinghua Tongfang is pretty much the only major OEM using AMD.
- solidninja 6y agoAlso sold as the Schenker Via 15 Pro [1]. Wonder if it will also come with a 4K OLED display option (Tuxedo will also offer one on the configurator within a week). [1] https://bestware.com/en/schenker-via-15-pro.html https://bestware.com/en/schenker-via-15-pro.html
- oDahjie0 6y agoI had a Slimbook 1. I had some issues with it, most notably the touchpad was not recognized as such but as a regular mouse, so I could not use synaptic to disable the touchpad while I was typing on the keyboard, super annoying. Also, the keyboard layout was weird. If I understand correctly, it's a mac layout (I never had a mac, so it was surprising to me), and a few keys were mislabeled, although not very annoyingly (their shift label and normal label were reversed). But all in all, for a first iteration, it was a good machine. After that one, I got a librem 13 v3, and it was terrible. Lot of issues, the one year and a half laptop is in the same state a five year old laptop would be, with screws going through the case and the laptop sometimes just powering off by itself (without it being ACPI/heat related). I'm nostalgic of my slimbook. EDIT: after all of that, I decided from now on to buy refurbished laptops checking on IFixIt which is the most repairable and upgrade it/change battery.
- lvturner 6y agoUnfortunately cloudflare has blocked my access to https://kde.slimbook.es/ https://kde.slimbook.es/ :(
- ddorian43 6y agoWe're sorry, 50% of the internet is not available to you. 1. Please try again later. 2. Please solve 10 captchas to train our machine learning stuff so you can access it. 3. Please use our Google (TM) login to get tracked on every breath you take. We have to see you are breathing because robots don't breathe. 4, Please volunteer to your ISP to find the other customers with hacked computers that are sending spam with the ip that was rotated to you, and clean their pc.
- missosoup 6y agoThis is too real. Especially captcha hell with absolutely no way out if you get rotated a 'bad' IP.
- oDahjie0 6y agoThis is a systematic problem when you use tor. I would really like a journalist to investigate this, by the way. The goal of a captcha is to prove you're human. What is the goal of 10 captcha in a row? I can make two hypothesis: 1. it's meant to discourage humans from using privacy preserving tools like tor, so it would be basically an agressive action to prevent them to access the content and force them to abandon their privacy tools 2. it could be a mean to identify the user by doing behavioral fingerprinting, by checking their movement speed, time of pattern recognition, etc, based on multiple inputs. I can't think of a case where such practice is not malicious and would not require scrutiny.
- realusername 6y agoSame for me, I just get an Access denied page.
- 72deluxe 6y agoLooks very nice, perhaps the replacement for my MacBook when it finally dies.
- lorenzhs 6y agoLooks rather nice, but "up to 5 hours battery with real use" for the 14" model is pretty awful, to put it mildly. They should get a lot more running time from a 47Wh battery than 5h. Only one USB-C port (apparently without charging support?) is pretty stingy, too. And one of the USB-A ports is only USB 2.0? WTF
- cs02rm0 6y agoThey're issues, but I think they're fairly minor issues. I paid comfortably more than twice as much for a MBP and I only use one of the USB-C ports, admittedly for charging too. And it's pretty permanently plugged in for power - once in a blue moon I need to be mobile with it. I'd probably have bought two if they were out when I was looking last year. Wish them plenty of success, because there aren't many competitors out there with Linux as a first class OS.
- baybal2 6y agoI would rather be glad them being so honest. We have a laptops with even smaller batteries from major brands who claim 10+ hours battery life. 13 inch LG Gram used to have a microscopic battery, while they claimed 16 hours of life from it. They got into quagmire with press coverage, and nearly doubled the battery size in the next generation. Half of battery life on a modern laptop is basically battery size/screen size, and you can't do anything about it except adding a bigger battery. It's still possible to make a laptop with terrible battery life if you get a single "power hog" part. For an Intel system, a CPU, and its VRM may take less than 1W in idle, but a bad WiFi card, DP-LVDS bridge, USB hub, Thunderbolt chip, SSD, or terrible power supply can easily blow the power budget above 6-9W in idle. Even seemingly innocuous parts like SD card readers, keyboard/touchpad controllers, sensors, wacom chips, embedded controllers can be very bad at idle power consumption, to the extent they take more power than idling CPU.
- lorenzhs 6y agoSure, some manufacturers claim outrageous battery life numbers that noone has ever managed to achieve outside of a lab. But my 2017 X1 Carbon with a 57Wh battery does manage close to 10 hours of actual light-ish use (with Linux). Macbooks' running times are apparently pretty close to what Apple claims, too. But 5 hours advertised running time is just bad, even if it actually manages that much.
- the_dripper 6y agoThis is pretty cool. Are there any other laptops with linux on them out there ?
- noir_lord 6y agoDell XPS do Ubuntu editions with support.
- mariusor 6y agoThat's a pretty easy search to do I think. Slimbook and Tuxedo Computers are selling similar rebranded models in the European market, and Purism and System76 in the US. From the major brand names, Lenovo is supposed to have preinstalled linux as an option for their T line, and there's Dell also that sells the XPS Developer edition.
- temptemptemp111 6y agoThe T Series has official Linux support too?
- tomp 6y agoWow, this laptop is serious business, it's the only less-than-15-inch laptop I could find with 32GB of RAM below 1500 EUR (it's only 1069!). Does anyone have any experience with these ones, any reviews?
- notmyfriend 6y agoA friend had the previous intel version and was very content. For the price at the time he could not find anything like this in Europe.
- fk6aaa545c 6y agoThat sounds great and good to see AMD cpu as intel has been very problematic in last few years (especially on linux, but windows as well), 32gigs ram for that money is great when thinkpad t495s comes with 8gig ram soldered on the board. But where is the trackpoint?
- toyg 6y agoThe trackpoint is a patented IBM/Lenovo thing, isn't it...?
- diffeomorphism 6y agoFor the most part, but for example HP Elitebooks and some Dell models have copies of them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick However, the non-Lenovo/IBM models seem to be somewhat worse (probably for patent reasons).
- acomjean 6y agoIt’s got to be expired now. It’s been over 20 years.
- baybal2 6y agoThe thing is, a lion share of all AMD notebooks on the market is developed, and manufactured by a single OEM. If you look inside recent lenovos, or huawei laptops: scratch, scratch, and you see Qinghua Tongfang logos on PCB, and body parts. The PCB design, and parts list is nearly identical. Very few big brand companies have in-house engineering for laptops, and the few who have, have it for Intel only.
- notmyfriend 6y agoThats an awesome price for 8 cores with up to 64GB of ram in a light package.
- rcarmo 6y agoI’ve been looking at Lenovo and Asus/Acer equivalents of this and must say that this crop of Ryzen chips seems to be very decent. However, most of the interesting models seem to be unavailable outside the US, as most brands dump older hardware revisions as “back to school” gear in Europe. So this might be an alternative if you want a 48XX now...
- fk6aaa545c 6y agoYeah I've been on t495 for almost a year and, it's a blasphemy I know, but i'm happy I upgraded from t420. And I know people with intel-based thinkpads (both linux and windows) complaining about horrible performance because intel power management. Hopefully the trend will continue I used to put intel everywhere but today I have no problems with AMD (especially on linux). That said my t495 came faulty from factory (trackpoints button not working properly) the quality issues are well documented if you search for that (iirc toms hardware chief editor wrote about that as well) but they changed it for me for free and upgraded to ryzen7 for free as well, that's a fair deal I would say.
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- spuz 6y agoProbably worth mentioning that they also do a non KDE version of these two laptops without the KDE branding on the lid and with your choice of a number of different Linux distros (or windows) pre-installed. Here is the 14" model: https://slimbook.es/en/store/slimbook-pro-x/pro-x-i7-1-comprar https://slimbook.es/en/store/slimbook-pro-x/pro-x-i7-1-compr... and 15" model: https://slimbook.es/en/store/slimbook-pro-x-15/pro-x-i7-2-comprar https://slimbook.es/en/store/slimbook-pro-x-15/pro-x-i7-2-co...
- Tsiklon 6y agoof note those machines are machines with Intel Processors in the same chassis, and are not AMD powered.
- miloignis 6y agoWhen I click on the link I get the option between AMD and Intel, and the AMD link takes me to this model, which does seem to be the same without branding: https://slimbook.es/en/store/slimbook-pro-x-15/pro-x-15-amd-comprar https://slimbook.es/en/store/slimbook-pro-x-15/pro-x-15-amd-...
- Tsiklon 6y agoOhh interesting - I was wrong, thanks for correcting me. I didn't see this link on the website.
- spuz 6y agoYeah sorry - they messed up the links for the AMD and Intel versions of the laptop. The links that I gave originally linked to the AMD versions (even though they have i7 in the URL). The new correct URLs are: https://slimbook.es/en/store/slimbook-pro-x/pro-x-amd-comprar https://slimbook.es/en/store/slimbook-pro-x/pro-x-amd-compra... https://slimbook.es/en/store/slimbook-pro-x-15/pro-x-15-amd-comprar https://slimbook.es/en/store/slimbook-pro-x-15/pro-x-15-amd-...
- Tsiklon 6y ago
- nvarsj 6y agoThese Ryzen chips look like game changers for laptops. Intel has stagnated for so long in comparison. Preliminary reports show near desktop performance for the Ryzen chips, and they blow Intel mobile chips out of the water - like 200% faster and much better thermals for sustained computing. On the downside, I've read rumors that Intel is leveraging its OEM relationships to keep AMD processors out of top of the line models such as Thinkpad X1. Intel is also preventing AMD laptops from using TB3. So it seems the options for an AMD laptop right now will remain limited - but I hope this will improve over the next year or so as demand increases for the cheaper and faster AMD laptops. You should not be buying an Intel laptop anymore IMO.
- pjmlp 6y agoMeanwhile I would be happy if my AMD GPU was able to support OpenGL 4.1 like it used to do with fxglr, instead I have to be happy that it does OpenGL 3.1 at all with Mesa 20, or reboot into Windows to enjoy DirectX 11.
- MrRadar 6y agoWhich GPU do you have? According to https://mesamatrix.net https://mesamatrix.net the radeonsi driver for GCN and RDNA cards supports OpenGL 4.6 (the latest), and the r600 driver for older TeraScale cards supports 4.5.
- pjmlp 6y agoWhich given my hint about FXGLR doesn't do me much good. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-hd-6310-igp.c2286 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-hd-6310-igp.c22... With fxglr, I enjoyed OpenGL 4.1, hardware video decoding, even though as you see from the specs, it can do more than that on Windows. With the wonderful open source driver, I get OpenGL 3.1 without hardware video acceleration.
- ihattendorf 6y agoDo you mean fglrx? Regardless, the problem is nobody wants to spend development time supporting 10+ year old cards when there isn't enough time to support all the features on newer cards.
- fomine3 6y agoNo one pointed out: Ryzan!